Hello All,
I have some secrew lenses and wondering of a suitabl digital body.Im wondering
of Pentax K-x and Canon 500D (T1I). but does Canon 500D accept M42 adaptor like
Pentax (i mean can i focus at infinity with such lenses).

Both Pentax and Canon should work fine with M42 lenses.  Here are the
differences I'm aware of:

Pentax digital bodies will allow you to use the focus confirm with any lens and
any "dumb" adapter.  I don't know Canon EOS bodies that well but I understand
they require some more advanced adapters (with a chip?) in order to allow the
focus confirm to work.  If you have a body with a traditional focusing aid
(split-screen or microprisms) then you don't really need this.

I'm not sure about Canon metering capabilities with M42 lenses but Pentax does M
and Av mode metering (stopped down). Pentax has a mode they call "hyper-manual"
that behaves like Av with the push of an additional button to set the shutter
speed before shooting, so you can use a fully manual lens but don't need to
loose too much time in determining the correct exposure.  Because metering needs
to be done with stopped down aperture, you want to have an A/M switch on your
lenses (the body can't actuate the Auto pin on the lens).  Otherwise you'll need
to modify the lens - which is not too hard in most cases.  Canon has a "flanged"
adapter available, with this kind of adapter the Auto pin will be permanently
pushed so you don't need the A/M switch or any lens modification.

Canon high-end bodies have a full-frame sensor that better matches the 35mm film
form factor and dimensions, while Pentax only has APS-C form factors thus you
end up with wide angle lenses that behave like a standard lens (28mm becomes the
equivalent of 43mm for example).  Telephoto lenses become super-telephoto (200mm
behaves like 300mm).

You should stay away from Nikon if you intend to use M42 screw lenses (they
don't allow infinity focus without glass in the adapter).

Olympus allows to mount almost anything but the adapters cost a fortune and the
sensor is really small.  No automation is possible (no linkage between lens and
body either).

Personally I use Pentax (and Canon FD with the M42 adapter but that's for film
only).  For me the best film body for M42 lenses is the Chinon CE II Memotron.

pentax k10d is a perfect tool but i recommend to use the original pentax adaptor
for focusing reasons.Camera is beautifull and i use it since 2 years
everyday,regards,
Lucien

--- On Mon, 12/21/09, LaithA <laiths66@...> wrote:


From: LaithA <laiths66@...>
Subject: [ClubM42] secrew lenses
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 11:26 PM


 



Hello All,
I have some secrew lenses and wondering of a suitabl digital body.Im wondering
of Pentax K-x and Canon 500D (T1I). but does Canon 500D accept M42 adaptor like
Pentax (i mean can i focus at infinity with such lenses).











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Thanks Lucien, with regards




________________________________
From: Lucien Defalque <luciendefalque@...>
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 6:48:34 AM
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] secrew lenses

 
pentax k10d is a perfect tool but i recommend to use the original pentax adaptor
for focusing reasons.Camera is beautifull and i use it since 2 years
everyday,regards,
Lucien

--- On Mon, 12/21/09, LaithA <laiths66@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: LaithA <laiths66@yahoo. com>
Subject: [ClubM42] secrew lenses
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com
Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 11:26 PM

 

Hello All,
I have some secrew lenses and wondering of a suitabl digital body.Im wondering
of Pentax K-x and Canon 500D (T1I). but does Canon 500D accept M42 adaptor like
Pentax (i mean can i focus at infinity with such lenses).

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Note that there is a similar flanged M43 to K-mount adapter for the
Pentax, available on eBay from Kindai: see eBay item 190336190418.
It's expensive but essential if you have M42 lenses w/o the
auto-manual switch, as I do.

Regards, Jim


--- In ClubM42@yahoogroups.com, Luc Moreau <arzitek@...> wrote:
(snip)
> I'm not sure about Canon metering capabilities with M42 lenses but Pentax does
M and Av mode metering (stopped down). Pentax has a mode they call
"hyper-manual" that behaves like Av with the push of an additional button to set
the shutter speed before shooting, so you can use a fully manual lens but don't
need to loose too much time in determining the correct exposure.  Because
metering needs to be done with stopped down aperture, you want to have an A/M
switch on your lenses (the body can't actuate the Auto pin on the lens). 
Otherwise you'll need to modify the lens - which is not too hard in most cases. 
Canon has a "flanged" adapter available, with this kind of adapter the Auto pin
will be permanently pushed so you don't need the A/M switch or any lens
modification.
(snip)

--- In ClubM42@yahoogroups.com, "jamesk8752" <jamesk8752@...> wrote:
> Note that there is a similar flanged M43 to K-mount adapter for the
> Pentax, available on eBay from Kindai: see eBay item 190336190418.

Thanks Jim; I wasn't aware that this kind of adapter existed for PK as well.

Luc

Hi,
I've been away from photography for quite some time. I now have
grandchildren and want to get back into photography to try and capture some  of
these
special moments.
I have three 42m screw mount lenses of which I used with my Fujica 701 film
  camera.
The camera is not working and I'm told is not worth repairing. I would like
  to use these 42m lenses with a new digital SLR camera of which I haven't
bought  yet.
I'm told I could use a lens adapter for my 42m lenses. My question is what
camera body do you recommend using an adapter. I'm thinking a Nikon or
Canon in  the range of $500- $1,000. I did read that there are some camera
functions that  won't work using an adapter with certain cameras. I would
appreciate any input  you can give me.

                                                        Thank you, Richard


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Hi Richard,

I'd probably recommend a Pentax body (like the K-X) because Pentax has worked
hardest to maintain some compatibility with the old lenses (old Pentax cameras
used M42). You need to stop down to meter (just like in the old days) when using
an M42 lens, but other than that, you can use Aperture Priority mode and even
get electronic focus confirmation.

I'm not sure about the Canons , but I'd be careful with the less expensive Nikon
DSLRs because many of them cannot meter at all with older lenses (whether or not
they fit). The D300 will but the D90 and below won't. Another thing that the
Pentax will offer but Canon and Nikon don't is image stabilization (anti-shake).
Because it's built into the sensor on the Pentax, you get it automatically with
your old lenses. WIth Canon and Nikon, you need to buy specific lenses with
anti-shake in order get that feature (it allows you to do hand-held photography
at lower shutter speeds than you could achieve otherwise). Here's a good
comparison page that shows what different DSLR brands can do with an m42 lens.

http://www.techdot.eu/index.php/2009/01/24/m42-adaptor-comparison-by-dslr-brand/

Another consideration is infinity focus. Not all adaptors provide that even
within one camera brand (e.g. many Pentax K-mount adaptors do not offer infinity
focus, although the one manufactured by Pentax is excellent and does).

Another thing to keep in mind is that all the cameras available in your price
range will have a cropped sensor, which means practically that the field of view
of your lenses will appear smaller than they did on a 35mm camera. Thus a 28mm
behaves like a 42mm, a 50mm behaves like a 75mm, etc. The rule is focal length
x1.5 (or x1.6 in the case of Canon).

Good luck!

Damon
(happy owner of a Pentax K10D and more M42 lenses than you can shake a stick at)

On 2010-01-03, at 7:52 PM, Trippir@... wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been away from photography for quite some time. I now have
> grandchildren and want to get back into photography to try and capture some of
these
> special moments.
> I have three 42m screw mount lenses of which I used with my Fujica 701 film
> camera.
> The camera is not working and I'm told is not worth repairing. I would like
> to use these 42m lenses with a new digital SLR camera of which I haven't
> bought yet.
> I'm told I could use a lens adapter for my 42m lenses. My question is what
> camera body do you recommend using an adapter. I'm thinking a Nikon or
> Canon in the range of $500- $1,000. I did read that there are some camera
> functions that won't work using an adapter with certain cameras. I would
> appreciate any input you can give me.
>
> Thank you, Richard
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Richard,

I recommend the Canon EOS DSLRs . This is simply because the working
distance on canon is 44mm , shorter than any other DSLR system except
the four-thirds and micro four-third systems (Olympus E3, Olympus Pen
E1).

In comparison, the nikon is 47mm and the pentax PK is about 45.56mm
(same as m42). Will explain significance in a moment.

However, while the 4/3 systems have a multiplication factor of 2x
(i.e. your 50mm lens becomes a 100mm equiv), most cheaper canon DSLRs
have a 1.6x multiplier (your 50mm becomes a 80mm equiv telephoto).
When your budget allows, you can buy the EOS 5D mk2 or 1DS, and there
is no multiplicator i.e. a 50mm is a 50mm.

therefore, the smaller the multiplication factor, the closer your lens
is to what you are familiar with.

ok, when the working distance is _shorter_ (EOS is 44mm, vs Nikon as
47mm), this means that you can adapt more lenses to your DSLR i.e.
besides m42, adapters are also easily available for you to use olympus
OM, Rollei QBM, Pentax PK, Leica-R, Contax CY and even Nikon AI lenses
on your EOS DSLR.

Of-course, aperture and focus control are manual only for all adapted lenses.




>
>
> Messages
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 1a. Compatibility
>     Posted by: "Trippir@..." Trippir@... trippir1
>     Date: Sun Jan 3, 2010 4:52 pm ((PST))
>
> Hi,
> I've been away from photography for quite some time. I now have
> grandchildren and want to get back into photography to try and
> capture some  of these
> special moments.
> I have three 42m screw mount lenses of which I used with my Fujica 701 film
>  camera.
> The camera is not working and I'm told is not worth repairing. I would like
>  to use these 42m lenses with a new digital SLR camera of which I haven't
> bought  yet.
> I'm told I could use a lens adapter for my 42m lenses. My question is what
> camera body do you recommend using an adapter. I'm thinking a Nikon or
> Canon in  the range of $500- $1,000. I did read that there are some camera
> functions that  won't work using an adapter with certain cameras. I would
> appreciate any input  you can give me.
>
>                                                        Thank you, Richard
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 1/4/2010 12:08:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kelvinlee@... writes:

Richard,

I recommend the Canon EOS DSLRs . This is simply  because the working
distance on canon is 44mm , shorter than any other  DSLR system except
the four-thirds and micro four-third systems (Olympus  E3, Olympus Pen
E1).

In comparison, the nikon is 47mm and the  pentax PK is about 45.56mm
(same as m42). Will explain significance in a  moment.

However, while the 4/3 systems have a multiplication factor of  2x
(i.e. your 50mm lens becomes a 100mm equiv), most cheaper canon DSLRs
have a 1.6x multiplier (your 50mm becomes a 80mm equiv telephoto).
When your budget allows, you can buy the EOS 5D mk2 or 1DS, and there
is no multiplicator i.e. a 50mm is a 50mm.

therefore, the smaller  the multiplication factor, the closer your lens
is to what you are  familiar with.

ok, when the working distance is _shorter_ (EOS is 44mm,  vs Nikon as
47mm), this means that you can adapt more lenses to your DSLR  i.e.
besides m42, adapters are also easily available for you to use  olympus
OM, Rollei QBM, Pentax PK, Leica-R, Contax CY and even Nikon AI  lenses
on your EOS DSLR.

Of-course, aperture and focus control are  manual only for all adapted
lenses.

>
>



Thanks for your quick reply. I'm getting recommendations on the Canon  EOS
& Pentax K.  I'll continue for the moment to inquire about the  latter. My
need is not all that urgent.My M42 lenses are a Zeiss 35mm, 135mm  Mirage and
the normal 50mm Fujica.
Fortunately my budget allows me to replace these lenses when the I need  to.
Aside from using an adapter what camera body (DSLR)do you recommend in  the
range of up to $1000.  I would also like it to have hd video capability  if
possible.

                              Thanks again, Richard



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I have a few old screw mount lenses I use with an aftermarket adapter on my
Pentax K200D. No issues at all. Having the anti-shake inside the camera is
wonderful because it works with all these old lenses. The water and dust
resistant body is an added plus. The only drawback of going Pentax DSLR that I
can think of is the auto focus and burst rate is not fast enough for
sports/action photography. Of course, the old lenses don't have auto focus and
probably wouldn't be used for fast action anyway.

Dave





--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Trippir@... <Trippir@...> wrote:

From: Trippir@... <Trippir@...>
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:40 PM







 











In a message dated 1/4/2010 12:08:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

kelvinlee@pacific. net.sg writes:



Richard,



I recommend the Canon EOS DSLRs . This is simply  because the working

distance on canon is 44mm , shorter than any other  DSLR system except

the four-thirds and micro four-third systems (Olympus  E3, Olympus Pen

E1).



In comparison, the nikon is 47mm and the  pentax PK is about 45.56mm

(same as m42). Will explain significance in a  moment.



However, while the 4/3 systems have a multiplication factor of  2x

(i.e. your 50mm lens becomes a 100mm equiv), most cheaper canon DSLRs

have a 1.6x multiplier (your 50mm becomes a 80mm equiv telephoto).

When your budget allows, you can buy the EOS 5D mk2 or 1DS, and there

is no multiplicator i.e. a 50mm is a 50mm.



therefore, the smaller  the multiplication factor, the closer your lens

is to what you are  familiar with.



ok, when the working distance is _shorter_ (EOS is 44mm,  vs Nikon as

47mm), this means that you can adapt more lenses to your DSLR  i.e.

besides m42, adapters are also easily available for you to use  olympus

OM, Rollei QBM, Pentax PK, Leica-R, Contax CY and even Nikon AI  lenses

on your EOS DSLR.



Of-course, aperture and focus control are  manual only for all adapted

lenses.



>

>



Thanks for your quick reply. I'm getting recommendations on the Canon  EOS

& Pentax K.  I'll continue for the moment to inquire about the  latter. My

need is not all that urgent.My M42 lenses are a Zeiss 35mm, 135mm  Mirage and

the normal 50mm Fujica.

Fortunately my budget allows me to replace these lenses when the I need  to.

Aside from using an adapter what camera body (DSLR)do you recommend in  the

range of up to $1000.  I would also like it to have hd video capability  if

possible.



                              Thanks again, Richard





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In a message dated 1/4/2010 3:01:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
the_hurdy_gurdyman@... writes:

I have  a few old screw mount lenses I use with an aftermarket adapter on
my Pentax  K200D. No issues at all. Having the anti-shake inside the camera
is wonderful  because it works with all these old lenses. The water and dust
resistant body  is an added plus. The only drawback of going Pentax DSLR
that I can think of  is the auto focus and burst rate is not fast enough for
sports/action  photography. Of course, the old lenses don't have auto focus
and probably  wouldn't be used for fast action  anyway.

Dave



Dave,
Thanks for your input, as of now I have 2 recommendations for the Pentax
and 1 for the Canon EOS.  I'll keep you posted on what else I find out  and
eventually do.

                                                               Thanks again,
Richard


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I've found it interesting that people complain about burst rate and auto focus
speed. I actually remember professional photographers at sporting events using
Speed Grafics. Look at old pictures of boxing and you'll see the ring surrounded
by them. These had no burst rate and no auto focus. What they required was a
really adept photographer. Somehow, they actually captured the right picture at
the precise moment.

When I actually shot sports, I used a Spotmatic. I never thought of myself as
disadvantaged. I simply had to work hard preparing for the actual shoot. I
didn't miss many shots either.

Well, it's no longer 1970 and I don't have the patience that I once had. Auto
focus is great and being able to take a burst of shots simplifies the work.
However, I still recommend spending the effort preparing for the shoot. That's
when you 'happen' to get the best shots.

To get back on the subject. I'd recommend the Pentax K7 with a genuine Pentax
adapter. I still use an M-42 2.8 200mm. Having anti-shake enables these old
hands to hold 1/50th shots - which is better than I could hand hold decades ago
on the Spottie. Since the lens never had autofocus, I don't miss it. The 5 FPS
burst rate is a pure luxury that I almost never use.

Larry in Dallas
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave Leonard
   To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:31 PM
   Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility



   I have a few old screw mount lenses I use with an aftermarket adapter on my
Pentax K200D. No issues at all. Having the anti-shake inside the camera is
wonderful because it works with all these old lenses. The water and dust
resistant body is an added plus. The only drawback of going Pentax DSLR that I
can think of is the auto focus and burst rate is not fast enough for
sports/action photography. Of course, the old lenses don't have auto focus and
probably wouldn't be used for fast action anyway.

   Dave

   --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Trippir@... <Trippir@...> wrote:



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Thank you all who have responded to my" Compatibility" Post . I have 3
recommendations for a Pentax and one for the Canon EOS. Still not sure what I'm
  going to buy just yet. Wen I do I'll post it on Club42m.

                                                      Thanks again, Richard


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Well,
I also have M42 lenses and asked for a suitable body , im told that Pentax Kx,
K20D ,K10D, and K2000D are the best . I think one can try a used K20D or buying
a new Kx for video ability is the most suitable option.I was told that if i do
not have  specific lenses i do not need to buy a pricy body cause kit lenses
do more than M42 can offer but im not sure of that cause most of M42 lenses are
much faster and durable than kit lenses .Im waiting for a new full frame from
Pentax or Praktica for my M42 lenses. 
Laith




________________________________
From: "Trippir@..." <Trippir@...>
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 12:12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility

 
Thank you all who have responded to my" Compatibility" Post . I have 3
recommendations for a Pentax and one for the Canon EOS. Still not sure what I'm
going to buy just yet. Wen I do I'll post it on Club42m.

Thanks again, Richard

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Larry,

Know where you are coming from. You'll never me complain of slow auto focus or
slow burst rate. Not after 30 years of Speed/Century Graphics, medium format
manual TLR's and rangefinder cameras, a slew of manual 35mm SLR's (including
Nikon and Praktica) and a few 35mm rangefinders. Also a bunch of old folders. I
only mentioned the slow auto focus and burst rate of the Pentax compared to
Canon and Nikon as I know it's important to some people.
As a side note, my Pentax K220D has a split image finder installed to make focus
easier for the manual lenses. About $35 and 10 minutes of work. This old timer
uses manual exposure far more than auto, but have reached the point where I like
the auto focus due to aging eyes. The split image works great, though, when I
use my much faster and/or longer manual lenses.

BTW, I still carry a hand held meter. :)

Dave




--- On Mon, 1/4/10, larrylevy2122 <larrylevy2122@...> wrote:

From: larrylevy2122 <larrylevy2122@...>
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 4:02 PM







 









       I've found it interesting that people complain about burst rate and auto
focus speed. I actually remember professional photographers at sporting events
using Speed Grafics. Look at old pictures of boxing and you'll see the ring
surrounded by them. These had no burst rate and no auto focus. What they
required was a really adept photographer. Somehow, they actually captured the
right picture at the precise moment.



When I actually shot sports, I used a Spotmatic. I never thought of myself as
disadvantaged. I simply had to work hard preparing for the actual shoot. I
didn't miss many shots either.



Well, it's no longer 1970 and I don't have the patience that I once had. Auto
focus is great and being able to take a burst of shots simplifies the work.
However, I still recommend spending the effort preparing for the shoot. That's
when you 'happen' to get the best shots.



To get back on the subject. I'd recommend the Pentax K7 with a genuine Pentax
adapter. I still use an M-42 2.8 200mm. Having anti-shake enables these old
hands to hold 1/50th shots - which is better than I could hand hold decades ago
on the Spottie. Since the lens never had autofocus, I don't miss it. The 5 FPS
burst rate is a pure luxury that I almost never use.



Larry in Dallas

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: Dave Leonard

   To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com

   Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:31 PM

   Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility



I have a few old screw mount lenses I use with an aftermarket adapter on my
Pentax K200D. No issues at all. Having the anti-shake inside the camera is
wonderful because it works with all these old lenses. The water and dust
resistant body is an added plus. The only drawback of going Pentax DSLR that I
can think of is the auto focus and burst rate is not fast enough for
sports/action photography. Of course, the old lenses don't have auto focus and
probably wouldn't be used for fast action anyway.



Dave



--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Trippir@aol. com <Trippir@aol. com> wrote:



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I long ago gave up that wait. Pentax first teased us with an early full frame
(FF) prototype. Now they are making noises about skipping directly to medium
frame bodies. Even if Hoya wanted to, I doubt if they could come up with a
business plan that makes a solid case for creating a FF offering.

As far as glass in concerned, today's zooms are amazingly better than the
awkward m42s that one can find, but they are still slower than primes. There was
a time when I would carry at least 4 lenses without giving it a thought.
Stopping to change lenses was just part of photography. As fast film got
delightfully better, I began to migrate to zoom lenses and carried much less.

With my Spottie, I'll still load a 28 or 35, 50, 135 and 200 set of lenses. Most
of the time, they reside in the car while I use what I hope is the right length.
As ever, I'm zooming with my feet. This does make me feel more creative.

With my digital SLR (K7), I'll usually mount an 18-250 and go.This gives me a
lot more freedom (and far fewer backaches). Rarely, I'll take the M42 quartet
with the K7. Since I bought them to use on the Spottie, I'm quite used to no
autofocus and stop down metering. (Note: Somewhere along the line, I bought a
1.7 Pentax AF Adapter. This enables autofocusing with the M42 lenses.)

Larry in Dallas
   Well,
   I also have M42 lenses and asked for a suitable body , im told that Pentax Kx,
K20D ,K10D, and K2000D are the best . I think one can try a used K20D or buying
a new Kx for video ability is the most suitable option.I was told that if i do
not have  specific lenses i do not need to buy a pricy body cause kit lenses do
more than M42 can offer but im not sure of that cause most of M42 lenses are
much faster and durable than kit lenses .Im waiting for a new full frame from
Pentax or Praktica for my M42 lenses.
   Laith




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I've been using a Pentax 18-55 zoom kit lens for a year now. I am just blown
away by how good these are optics-wise compared to most vintage screw-mount
lenses. They have superior optics to all but the best of the best vintage
lenses. They are built lighter than older lenses, but I have noticed no
reliability issues. I recommend one of these for the price they can be found for
now. I'd get it with the camera body as a set. I find I only need my old faster
lenses once in while now and rely on the great optics in Pentax's fine kit lens.

Dave




--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Laith Alasadi <laiths66@...> wrote:

From: Laith Alasadi <laiths66@...>
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 4:30 PM







 









       Well,

I also have M42 lenses and asked for a suitable body , im told that Pentax Kx,
K20D ,K10D, and K2000D are the best . I think one can try a used K20D or buying
a new Kx for video ability is the most suitable option.I was told that if i do
not have  specific lenses i do not need to buy a pricy body cause kit lenses
do more than M42 can offer but im not sure of that cause most of M42 lenses are
much faster and durable than kit lenses .Im waiting for a new full frame from
Pentax or Praktica for my M42 lenses. 

Laith



____________ _________ _________ __

From: "Trippir@aol. com" <Trippir@aol. com>

To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 12:12:21 AM

Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility



 

Thank you all who have responded to my" Compatibility" Post . I have 3

recommendations for a Pentax and one for the Canon EOS. Still not sure what I'm

going to buy just yet. Wen I do I'll post it on Club42m.



Thanks again, Richard



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Dave,

Your experience is certainly more varied than mine. My experience is almost all
Pentax and an old Zeiss folder that my father used in the 30s.

Somehow, I've been lucky. If I want to manually focus, I remove my glasses and
go about focusing. My eyes still work (let's not talk about anything else).

I used to think that auto focusing was just something else coming between me and
the picture. One day with my neighbor's Minolta changed that.

Than again, I used to think graphic user interface (icons) were just something
coming between me and the computer's operating system. Watching the same
neighbor operate a MAC set me straight. Most of the time, easier is better.

I guess, since the Spotmeter is hand-held, you are not alone. I like being able
to measure light at the precise point I want.
   ----- Original Message -----


   Larry,

   Know where you are coming from. You'll never me complain of slow auto focus or
slow burst rate. Not after 30 years of Speed/Century Graphics, medium format
manual TLR's and rangefinder cameras, a slew of manual 35mm SLR's (including
Nikon and Praktica) and a few 35mm rangefinders. Also a bunch of old folders. I
only mentioned the slow auto focus and burst rate of the Pentax compared to
Canon and Nikon as I know it's important to some people.
   As a side note, my Pentax K220D has a split image finder installed to make
focus easier for the manual lenses. About $35 and 10 minutes of work. This old
timer uses manual exposure far more than auto, but have reached the point where
I like the auto focus due to aging eyes. The split image works great, though,
when I use my much faster and/or longer manual lenses.

   BTW, I still carry a hand held meter. :)

   Dave



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If you are using manual focusing (obviously), there are
interchangeable screens available which help manual focus. For the
higher end cameras, the manufacturers have a selection. For the lower
end cameras, you can buy from brands like Katzeye, or others on e-bay,
and have your technician install them. These are usually higher
contrast screens to make manual focusing easier, as DSLR screens are
not optimised for this and terrible for that purpose.
The manufactuers expect you to use autofocus lenses.

re: adapters,
try and get the later M42 adapters with a microchip built in to aid
your focus using the camera's autofocus sensor as a manual in-out of
focus indicator.

Further, it is always preferable to use a camera system/adapter which
allows you to mount and dismount lenses with adapter left on camera. A
lot less hassle than having one where you have to remove adapter from
lens only, and remount adapter on new lens before remounting on
camera. you could of course, just buy multiple adapters.

re: camera settings,
for adapted lenses, best is to use aperture priority .... so you set
aperture, camera auto meters and sets shutter speed.




----
Thanks for your quick reply. I'm getting recommendations on the Canon  EOS
& Pentax K.  I'll continue for the moment to inquire about the  latter. My
need is not all that urgent.My M42 lenses are a Zeiss 35mm, 135mm  Mirage and
the normal 50mm Fujica.
Fortunately my budget allows me to replace these lenses when the I need  to.
Aside from using an adapter what camera body (DSLR)do you recommend in  the
range of up to $1000.  I would also like it to have hd video capability  if
possible.

You can use M42 lenses with adapters on Pentax, Canon and Olympus DSLRs.  I
don't think there is a great difference in function and convenience among these
groups; perhaps, ironically, a bit less convenient with the Pentaxes because
that adapter is fiddly to get in and out of the camera.  With the Canon and
Olympus mounts, the adapter just bayonets onto the camera like a lens, and you
can freely choose whether you want to get one adapter and leave it on the camera
or get one for each lens and use them as bayonet-mounts.  The former is cheaper
(my choice), the latter is quicker for lens changes.

Here is my own DSLR and the lenses that I use with it:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26262745@N08/3668949559/in/set-72157610757987197/

These include M42, Nikon, Olympus, Pentacon Six, and now I also have a Pentax K
adapter as well.  I have changed my focusing screen to a manual focus type,
which I would consider a necessity if you will be using manual lenses a lot of
the time; I do not use an autofocus-confirming adapter because I have found them
slow and awkward to use, but other people like them better than I do.  The
regular, non-AF confirming adapter for M42 to EOS costs from $10 to $20
depending on who you buy it from; mine is chrome plated brass, which I would
recommend over the anodized aluminum ones.  AF adapters used to be much more
expensive, but they seem to be coming down quite a bit to the point where you
could get one and see whether you like it.

In some cameras, including my Rebel XTi, when you change the screen to a manual
type you lose the autofocus lights, so with these you can't have BOTH the
benefits of a manual focus screen and an AF confirming adapter at the same time.
In others, the AF lights continue to work with a manual screen.  In the Canon
line, these are more expensive cameras, but the situation may be different with
Pentax and Olympus.  I can't recommend any specific Pentax or Olympus models
because I'm not familiar enough with them to give good advice, but in the Canon
line, I have had very good service from my (now discontinued) XTi, and the
current Rebel XS, which costs about $500 at discount, is very nearly the same
camera.  They just get better from there up.

Last caveat, which I'm sure is not news: these all have very small viewfinders
compared to your Fuji.  This is not a good thing, but you get used to it
basically because you have no choice.  If you get a chance to see the different
models side by side, you might want to choose the one with the biggest view in
the eyepiece.

--- In ClubM42@yahoogroups.com, Trippir@... wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I've been away from photography for quite some time. I now have
> grandchildren and want to get back into photography to try and capture some 
of these
> special moments.
> I have three 42m screw mount lenses of which I used with my Fujica 701 film
>  camera.
> The camera is not working and I'm told is not worth repairing. I would like
>  to use these 42m lenses with a new digital SLR camera of which I haven't
> bought  yet.
> I'm told I could use a lens adapter for my 42m lenses. My question is what
> camera body do you recommend using an adapter. I'm thinking a Nikon or
> Canon in  the range of $500- $1,000. I did read that there are some camera
> functions that  won't work using an adapter with certain cameras. I would
> appreciate any input  you can give me.
>
>                                                        Thank you, Richard
>
>
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>

Hi Rick,
Thanks for your response, I just ordered a Canon EOS Rebel T1i from Costco
($800)
with Kit lenses: 18-55mm & 55-250mm (4 gig sd memory card  included)
I was concerned about the quality of these kit lenses but at $800 I thought
  it was a good deal. Do you have any input on this Canon T1i ?
As far as the adapter, I'll probably get one to use with my Mirage  135mm
(42m)
Do you have a link for the adapter I'll need for this T1i ?
The T1i has HD movie capability of which with 2 young grandchildren and 2
more on the way I thought might be the way to go.  DSLR's  w/movie  function
is fairly new to the market with the Nikon D90 being the first to come  to
market in mid 2008. I think the idea of a SLR w/Movie function is quite
unique although the specs at this point are not quite there. (at least for  the
movie capability)
I'll let you know my hands on experience when the camera arrives.

                                                              Thanks again,
Richard


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Hello All,
I think you do not need M42 adaptor cause you have 18-55 and 55-200, i think you
have better zooms with AF. Also in this range i think you need a swivial or
movable LCD for childs thus i suggest to buy Nikon D5000 it has also HD video
ability you can buy from same store costco with almost same price.
Laith




________________________________
From: "Trippir@..." <Trippir@...>
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:39:45 PM
Subject: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility

 

Hi Rick,
Thanks for your response, I just ordered a Canon EOS Rebel T1i from Costco
($800)
with Kit lenses: 18-55mm & 55-250mm (4 gig sd memory card included)
I was concerned about the quality of these kit lenses but at $800 I thought
it was a good deal. Do you have any input on this Canon T1i ?
As far as the adapter, I'll probably get one to use with my Mirage 135mm
(42m)
Do you have a link for the adapter I'll need for this T1i ?
The T1i has HD movie capability of which with 2 young grandchildren and 2
more on the way I thought might be the way to go. DSLR's w/movie function
is fairly new to the market with the Nikon D90 being the first to come to
market in mid 2008. I think the idea of a SLR w/Movie function is quite
unique although the specs at this point are not quite there. (at least for the
movie capability)
I'll let you know my hands on experience when the camera arrives.

Thanks again,
Richard

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It's still nice to have lenses that are faster than f-3.5 to f-4.5. M42 lenses
are the least expensive way to do this. I have a 50mm/f-1.4 that comes in very
handy, and I've found uses for my 135/f-2.8 and 35/f-2.8. Selective focus is
easier with the faster lenses, as well as low light pictures. I never paid more
than $20 for any of these, and only about $15 for the adapter. Money well spent,
IMO.

Dave



--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Laith Alasadi <laiths66@...> wrote:

From: Laith Alasadi <laiths66@...>
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 11:49 AM







 









       Hello All,

I think you do not need M42 adaptor cause you have 18-55 and 55-200, i think you
have better zooms with AF. Also in this range i think you need a swivial or
movable LCD for childs thus i suggest to buy Nikon D5000 it has also HD video
ability you can buy from same store costco with almost same price.

Laith



____________ _________ _________ __

From: "Trippir@aol. com" <Trippir@aol. com>

To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:39:45 PM

Subject: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility



 



Hi Rick,

Thanks for your response, I just ordered a Canon EOS Rebel T1i from Costco

($800)

with Kit lenses: 18-55mm & 55-250mm (4 gig sd memory card included)

I was concerned about the quality of these kit lenses but at $800 I thought

it was a good deal. Do you have any input on this Canon T1i ?

As far as the adapter, I'll probably get one to use with my Mirage 135mm

(42m)

Do you have a link for the adapter I'll need for this T1i ?

The T1i has HD movie capability of which with 2 young grandchildren and 2

more on the way I thought might be the way to go. DSLR's w/movie function

is fairly new to the market with the Nikon D90 being the first to come to

market in mid 2008. I think the idea of a SLR w/Movie function is quite

unique although the specs at this point are not quite there. (at least for the

movie capability)

I'll let you know my hands on experience when the camera arrives.



Thanks again,

Richard



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Dear Dave ,
I agree with you but modern lenses are much easier , simpler , quicker and
lighter in use ,also remember Canon bodies do not have image stabilization like
Pentax. In fact i like my Praktica lenses so much that im waiting for a suitable
body from may be Pentax as they had so many old lenses in the past that i think
are prefered than Canon or other brands.
Laith




________________________________
From: Dave Leonard <the_hurdy_gurdyman@...>
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:58:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility

 
It's still nice to have lenses that are faster than f-3.5 to f-4.5. M42 lenses
are the least expensive way to do this. I have a 50mm/f-1.4 that comes in very
handy, and I've found uses for my 135/f-2.8 and 35/f-2.8. Selective focus is
easier with the faster lenses, as well as low light pictures. I never paid more
than $20 for any of these, and only about $15 for the adapter. Money well spent,
IMO.

Dave

--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Laith Alasadi <laiths66@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Laith Alasadi <laiths66@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 11:49 AM

 

Hello All,

I think you do not need M42 adaptor cause you have 18-55 and 55-200, i think you
have better zooms with AF. Also in this range i think you need a swivial or
movable LCD for childs thus i suggest to buy Nikon D5000 it has also HD video
ability you can buy from same store costco with almost same price.

Laith

____________ _________ _________ __

From: "Trippir@aol. com" <Trippir@aol. com>

To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:39:45 PM

Subject: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility

 

Hi Rick,

Thanks for your response, I just ordered a Canon EOS Rebel T1i from Costco

($800)

with Kit lenses: 18-55mm & 55-250mm (4 gig sd memory card included)

I was concerned about the quality of these kit lenses but at $800 I thought

it was a good deal. Do you have any input on this Canon T1i ?

As far as the adapter, I'll probably get one to use with my Mirage 135mm

(42m)

Do you have a link for the adapter I'll need for this T1i ?

The T1i has HD movie capability of which with 2 young grandchildren and 2

more on the way I thought might be the way to go. DSLR's w/movie function

is fairly new to the market with the Nikon D90 being the first to come to

market in mid 2008. I think the idea of a SLR w/Movie function is quite

unique although the specs at this point are not quite there. (at least for the

movie capability)

I'll let you know my hands on experience when the camera arrives.

Thanks again,

Richard

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technically, I doubt that many of us really NEED the camera at all; we're doing
this because we want to.

:)=

--- In ClubM42@yahoogroups.com, Laith Alasadi <laiths66@...> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> I think you do not need M42 adaptor cause you have 18-55 and 55-200, i think
you have better zooms with AF. Also in this range i think you need a swivial or
movable LCD for childs thus i suggest to buy Nikon D5000 it has also HD video
ability you can buy from same store costco with almost same price.
> Laith
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Trippir@..." <Trippir@...>
> To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:39:45 PM
> Subject: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility
>
>  
>
> Hi Rick,
> Thanks for your response, I just ordered a Canon EOS Rebel T1i from Costco
> ($800)
> with Kit lenses: 18-55mm & 55-250mm (4 gig sd memory card included)
> I was concerned about the quality of these kit lenses but at $800 I thought
> it was a good deal. Do you have any input on this Canon T1i ?
> As far as the adapter, I'll probably get one to use with my Mirage 135mm
> (42m)
> Do you have a link for the adapter I'll need for this T1i ?
> The T1i has HD movie capability of which with 2 young grandchildren and 2
> more on the way I thought might be the way to go. DSLR's w/movie function
> is fairly new to the market with the Nikon D90 being the first to come to
> market in mid 2008. I think the idea of a SLR w/Movie function is quite
> unique although the specs at this point are not quite there. (at least for the
> movie capability)
> I'll let you know my hands on experience when the camera arrives.
>
> Thanks again,
> Richard
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Dont forget, the slower lenses often outperform the faster ones at real
world
apertures ( F5.6 to F11). I simply love my K28/3.5 even though I have
the
K28/2 which is only better close up and at nearly wide open. In some
ways,
its worse like lack of flare compared to the f3.5 version. I do realize
these
are more expensive than inexpensive M42 versions though. That K28/3.5
is a killer lens, dont let the F3.5 speed put you off track and barking
up the
wrong tree.....


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-----Original Message-----
From: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ClubM42@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Laith Alasadi
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:21 PM
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility




Dear Dave ,
I agree with you but modern lenses are much easier , simpler , quicker
and lighter in use ,also remember Canon bodies do not have image
stabilization like Pentax. In fact i like my Praktica lenses so much
that im waiting for a suitable body from may be Pentax as they had so
many old lenses in the past that i think are prefered than Canon or
other brands.
Laith

________________________________
From: Dave Leonard <the_hurdy_gurdyman@
<mailto:the_hurdy_gurdyman%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups <mailto:ClubM42%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:58:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility


It's still nice to have lenses that are faster than f-3.5 to f-4.5. M42
lenses are the least expensive way to do this. I have a 50mm/f-1.4 that
comes in very handy, and I've found uses for my 135/f-2.8 and 35/f-2.8.
Selective focus is easier with the faster lenses, as well as low light
pictures. I never paid more than $20 for any of these, and only about
$15 for the adapter. Money well spent, IMO.

Dave

--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Laith Alasadi <laiths66@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Laith Alasadi <laiths66@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility
To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 11:49 AM



Hello All,

I think you do not need M42 adaptor cause you have 18-55 and 55-200, i
think you have better zooms with AF. Also in this range i think you need
a swivial or movable LCD for childs thus i suggest to buy Nikon D5000 it
has also HD video ability you can buy from same store costco with almost
same price.

Laith

____________ _________ _________ __

From: "Trippir@aol. com" <Trippir@aol. com>

To: ClubM42@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:39:45 PM

Subject: [ClubM42] Re: Compatibility



Hi Rick,

Thanks for your response, I just ordered a Canon EOS Rebel T1i from
Costco

($800)

with Kit lenses: 18-55mm & 55-250mm (4 gig sd memory card included)

I was concerned about the quality of these kit lenses but at $800 I
thought

it was a good deal. Do you have any input on this Canon T1i ?

As far as the adapter, I'll probably get one to use with my Mirage 135mm


(42m)

Do you have a link for the adapter I'll need for this T1i ?

The T1i has HD movie capability of which with 2 young grandchildren and
2

more on the way I thought might be the way to go. DSLR's w/movie
function

is fairly new to the market with the Nikon D90 being the first to come
to

market in mid 2008. I think the idea of a SLR w/Movie function is quite

unique although the specs at this point are not quite there. (at least
for the

movie capability)

I'll let you know my hands on experience when the camera arrives.

Thanks again,

Richard

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Sold as kit only.

All come with original Pentax front and rear caps.
Condition is 8-9+ and in good condition unless stated. These are the famous
Pentax Super multicoated Takumar M42 screwmount lenses.

1. SMC Takumar 28mm f3.5 (compact version) with hood/case
2. SMC Takumar 55mm f1.8
3. SMC Takumar 85mm f1.9
4. SMC Takumar 105mm f2.8 hood+case
5. SMC Takumar 120mm f2.8 (oily blades, needs a simple service) - caps&case
6. SMC Takumar 50mm f4 macro
7. SMC Takumar 100mm f4 macro
8. SMC Takumar 300mm f4

Most of them have caps, cases and in some cases hoods actually... just off-hand
I can't be sure.

The 85mm is a REAL and RARE SMC f1.9 version, made only for 2years between the
older Super Takumar and SMC Takumar versions.

This is a rare opportunity to buy these lenses in one lot. I like them a lot
myself, but have no time to use them.

US$1300 firm, by paypal, shipped worldwide.

Sold as a set. All with caps.

1 Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar Olympia (1950) black, 180/2.8
2 Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135/4 (chrome)
3 Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 80/2.8 (chrome)
4 Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2 (chrome)
5 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (black)

(1) - (4) are the true vintage Zeiss Jena lenses, coated but not multicoated,
the last one is a later model from the 1980s.

US$950 shipped worldwide , paypal.

Hello All,
Im wondering about the names of Praktica lenses (M42 mount) and Pentax (K mount)
what is the difference between them ,  does 42 mean the distance between the
sensor plane and the center of the lens or it is the diameter of the lens
thread? and also i need to know that if Pentax K mount has the same pins like
Praktica for auto down aperture .
i heared that a new camera Samsung NX10 was interduced in 4th of Jan. that can
take Pentax K mount . Im wondering if it accepts my Praktica lenses and for
selling price




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