Does anyone know how the "print to file" works under the file|print
toolbar item? No matter what I try to save this file as, it cannot be read
later. It does contain the phrase "BJLSTART" inside the file which may
refer to my printer but I can't get the printer to print it. My printer is
a Canon which they used to call a bubble-jet printer so the BJ may refer
to this.
DaveH

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At 05:38 AM 07/21/2011 Dave Haycock wrote:
>Does anyone know how the "print to file" works under the
>file|print
>toolbar item? No matter what I try to save this file as, it
>cannot be read
>later.

"Print to file" isn't specific to Opera. It is something you
choose when selecting options for printing in general. It saves
the code that would normally be sent to the printer to a file
instead. That file can then be sent to the printer at some later
time. In times past you could then copy the file to lpt1 to
print it, but that doesn't work with most modern printers. Thus,
you need a program designed to send .prn files to the printer to
do that. The one I occasionally use is called PrintFile. You can
find it here <http://www.lerup.com/printfile/>

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:16:01 +0800, Katrina Knight <kk1raven@...>
wrote:

> At 05:38 AM 07/21/2011 Dave Haycock wrote:
>> Does anyone know how the "print to file" works under the
>> file|print
>> toolbar item? No matter what I try to save this file as, it
>> cannot be read
>> later.
>
> "Print to file" isn't specific to Opera. It is something you
> choose when selecting options for printing in general. It saves
> the code that would normally be sent to the printer to a file
> instead. That file can then be sent to the printer at some later
> time. In times past you could then copy the file to lpt1 to
> print it, but that doesn't work with most modern printers. Thus,
> you need a program designed to send .prn files to the printer to
> do that. The one I occasionally use is called PrintFile. You can
> find it here <http://www.lerup.com/printfile/>


Thanks for this; I did find a way to print the file as at:-
http://askbobrankin.com/printing_a_prn_file.html

I didn't realize there was any problem with this "print to file" formula,
I'd saved an important file this way and then found I couldn't print it.
By using the method above I managed to print it, I just won't use this
again.
DaveH

I have Windows XP, Opera 11.11, and have recently installed Adobe
  flash. I had to copy the dll file by hand to Opera's plugin folder. It
  works now so well that I can, in Opera, open and play a file from my own
  hard disk, but when I go to Youtube, that page says I have to upgrade my
  Adobe flash player to see that video clip. They say I should upgrade to
  v 10. Is that the problem? I have v 11. At the top of the page it says,
  on gray background, that "there is a lack of plug in. I have to install
  Adobe flash player to show this page". As far as I can see, everything
  is ticked "on" in the browser settings.

  grateful for comments/Rolf

At 09:24 AM 07/30/2011 rolf-str@... wrote:
>  I have Windows XP, Opera 11.11, and have recently installed
> Adobe flash. I had to copy the dll file by hand to Opera's
> plugin folder.

I don't have a good answer for you, but I have a bunch of
questions that might help us figure out what the problem is.

What led you to feel you had to copy the file by hand? Did
something go wrong during the installation that caused you to
have to do that? In my experience, that's not necessary.

If you look at the list of plug-ins, do you see flash listed
there? If you do, what information do you get about it when you
click on the "details" checkbox at the top of the list of
plug-ins?

If you go to Help | about Opera, which paths do you see listed
for plug-ins?

Is there a reason you're using 11.11 rather than 11.5?

>It works now so well that I can, in Opera, open and play a file
>from my own
>  hard disk, but when I go to Youtube, that page says I have to
> upgrade my
>  Adobe flash player to see that video clip. They say I should
> upgrade to
>  v 10. Is that the problem? I have v 11.

Are you talking about the version of Flash or the version of
Opera? I believe the current version of Flash is 10.3. Which
version did you install?

What results do you get with other sites that use Flash?

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

I've had frequent problems with the Flash Player Plug In.  Most recently, after
it failed and closed Opera, Opera was slowed way down, particularly on an overly
busy site like Huff Post.  I downloaded the suggested uninstaller from Adobe,
uninstalled the program, went to the download and "ran" Flash Player.  But the
plug in or program failed to install on a number of occasions.  As suggested I
finally disabled the Avast anti-virus shield and it installed correctly. 
Checking the installed programs (from Control Panel>Uninstall) I find Flash
Player 10 in the list, but there is no .dll for it in Opera plugins or Firefox
or IE and nowhere to copy it from.  Opera still stalls on some of the graphics
in Huff Post.  Chrome seems better though in the past I've always found it
slower.  Since this plug-in seems so critical to browsing, why can't Adobe get
it right?  Because it's "free"?

	 I'm using Opera 11.5  and Flash 10.3.181.34 on Win 7.

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  Prescott Smith            preskut12@...

==========================================================================

Katrina Knight wrote:
> Rolf wrote:
>>  I have Windows XP, Opera 11.11, and have recently installed
>> Adobe flash. I had to copy the dll file by hand to Opera's
>> plugin folder.
>
> I don't have a good answer for you, but I have a bunch of
> questions that might help us figure out what the problem is.
>
> What led you to feel you had to copy the file by hand? Did
> something go wrong during the installation that caused you to
> have to do that? In my experience, that's not necessary.

  When I installed flash, it didn't end up in the plugin folder, so I
  followed the help instructions and did it myself.

> If you look at the list of plug-ins, do you see flash listed
> there? If you do, what information do you get about it when you
> click on the "details" checkbox at the top of the list of
> plug-ins?
>
> If you go to Help | about Opera, which paths do you see listed
> for plug-ins?

  Page-Developer tools-plugins says
  Adobe Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 11.6
  C:\Program\Opera\program\plugins\np32dsw.dll
  Activated
  application/x-director Shockwave Movie dcr,dir,dxr

  In the path i find
  Sökväg till insticksprogram
  C:\Program\Opera\program\plugins
  C:\Program\Mozilla Firefox\plugins
  C:\Program\Windows Media Player

> Is there a reason you're using 11.11 rather than 11.5?

  No particular reason, except that that was what I had handy when I
  installed programs on that computer. I will of course install 11.5 RSN.
  Whenever I get around to do it. :-)

>>It works now so well that I can, in Opera, open and play a file
>>from my own
>>  hard disk, but when I go to Youtube, that page says I have to
>> upgrade my
>>  Adobe flash player to see that video clip. They say I should
>> upgrade to
>>  v 10. Is that the problem? I have v 11.
>
> Are you talking about the version of Flash

  Flash.

> or the version of
> Opera? I believe the current version of Flash is 10.3. Which
> version did you install?

  11.6 for Director.

  The background is, I noticed when I wanted to download flash 10 from
  the adobe site that they have changed the procedure so that I have to
  install online. The installation file was just a small starter file,
  that has to go out on the Internet to do the installation. For several
  reasons I take a very dim view on that. From a friend I got a direct
  link to a proper installation file (from the adobe site), and I
  downloaded and installed that.

> What results do you get with other sites that use Flash?

  One other site says "Adobe Flash Player missing".

  thanks again/Rolf

Hi Pres,

Saw your mention of needing to tickle Avast.  FWIW you should do a lot
of tickling:

1)  You should uncheck Avast scanning programs and files you select to
run or just use from your disk;

2)  You should uncheck Avast scanning all files your intend to send
(includes e-mail posts);

3)  You should uncheck anything which makes no sense.

Why?  This is because it is one thing for Avast to check a file you are
bringing into your computer (a download like Flash or e-mail).  That
makes sense and is a good piece of protection.  It is another thing for
Avast to check files you already have or are creating because you will
have already used Avast to scan your computer and because you would not
be creating malware to send to people.

I had to do this when I found I could not send out messages through
Thunderbird and when I kept getting error messages whenever I started up
MS Word.  Now I have no problem.  Seems the culprit was the new version
of Avast which looks like older versions but has a lot more under the hood.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Julian.

Thanks for the tips.  In the past I've noticed that AVG sends a notice to your
email recipients warning them that AVG is out of date and the email they are
receiving may be dangerous.  Don't know if Avast does this when not using
outgoing check.  Will have to send email to myself to see when I disable these.

---------------------------------------------------
  Prescott Smith            preskut12@...

============================================================================
From: Julian [jaronowitz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 01:23 PM
To: Opera_Users [Opera_Users@yahoogroups.com]
Subject: Re: [Opera_Users] Opera 11, flash and Youtube

Hi Pres,

Saw your mention of needing to tickle Avast.  FWIW you should do a lot
of tickling:

1)  You should uncheck Avast scanning programs and files you select to
run or just use from your disk;

2)  You should uncheck Avast scanning all files your intend to send
(includes e-mail posts);

3)  You should uncheck anything which makes no sense.

Why?  This is because it is one thing for Avast to check a file you are
bringing into your computer (a download like Flash or e-mail).  That
makes sense and is a good piece of protection.  It is another thing for
Avast to check files you already have or are creating because you will
have already used Avast to scan your computer and because you would not
be creating malware to send to people.

I had to do this when I found I could not send out messages through
Thunderbird and when I kept getting error messages whenever I started up
MS Word.  Now I have no problem.  Seems the culprit was the new version
of Avast which looks like older versions but has a lot more under the hood.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Julian.

At 03:41 AM 08/03/2011 rolf-str@... wrote:
>  When I installed flash, it didn't end up in the plugin
> folder, so I followed the help instructions and did it myself.

If it ends up in any of the locations listed for plug-ins at
Help | About Opera, that should be okay. I don't actually have
any plug-ins in the Opera plugins subdirectory. My copy of the
flash dll is in c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\ and it works
just fine there with all of my several installations of Opera.

> > If you go to Help | about Opera, which paths do you see
> listed
> > for plug-ins?
>
>  Page-Developer tools-plugins says
>  Adobe Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 11.6
>  C:\Program\Opera\program\plugins\np32dsw.dll
>  Activated
>  application/x-director Shockwave Movie dcr,dir,dxr

You don't see Flash itself? It should look something like this:
Shockwave Flash - 10,3,181,26
Description: Shockwave Flash 10.3 r181
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dllapplication/futuresplash
FutureSplash movie      spl
application/x-shockwave-flash   Adobe Flash movie       swf,swt

> > or the version of
> > Opera? I believe the current version of Flash is 10.3. Which
> > version did you install?
>
>  11.6 for Director.

The Shockwave for Director plug-in isn't the same thing as
Flash. It looks to me like you didn't actually manage to get
Flash itself installed. I think it would be worth checking to
see if NPSWF32.dll is anywhere to be found on your hard drive.

>The background is, I noticed when I wanted to download flash 10
>from the adobe site that they have changed the procedure so
>that I have to install online. The installation file was just a
>small starter file, that has to go out on the Internet to do
>the installation. For several reasons I take a very dim view on
>that. From a friend I got a direct link to a proper
>installation file (from the adobe site), and I downloaded and
>installed that.


When downloaded the install file, are you sure that you got the
right installation file? There are two - one for MS IE and one
for Firefox and other browsers. You want the latter. This is the
right one
<http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash
_player.exe> .

> > What results do you get with other sites that use Flash?
>
>  One other site says "Adobe Flash Player missing".

That fits with Flash itself not being installed right. If you go
to the Add or Remove Programs control panel applet, do you see
Flash there? My recommendation based on what you've told us is
to uninstall Flash as completely as you can, make sure you have
the correct offline installer, disconnect from the internet,
turn off your anti-virus and firewall software, then run the
installer. Even if you do see the option to uninstall Flash, you
might want to download and use the uninstaller here
<http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player.e\
xe>.

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

Katrina Knight  wrote:
> rolf-str@ wrote:
>>  When I installed flash, it didn't end up in the plugin
>> folder, so I followed the help instructions and did it myself.
>
> If it ends up in any of the locations listed for plug-ins at
> Help | About Opera, that should be okay. I don't actually have
> any plug-ins in the Opera plugins subdirectory. My copy of the
> flash dll is in c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\ and it works
> just fine there with all of my several installations of Opera.

  I don't have it in that directory, but I have it in .../Adobe/Director.
  np32dsw.dll 11.6... Adobe shockwave for director. Perhaps I will try
  putting that in the macromedia/Flash directory as well.

> When downloaded the install file, are you sure that you got the
> right installation file? There are two - one for MS IE and one
> for Firefox and other browsers.

  Hmm... I'm sure I didn't see any warning or choice about that when I
  tried to download. If that's so, it is surely very practical indeed. :-)

  Thank you for your help! I will try it out as soon as I have a day off
  to do it.

  cheers/Rolf

You're discussing two different programs:  Flash Player plug-in and Shockwave
Flash.  If all is well you should see two flash programs by going to Control
Panel>Uninstall.  Only the SWF file appears under Macromedia.  Adobe should
never have confused things with two "plug-ins" or programs.  Hard enough to get
one installed.  And as Katrina says there are two versions of the Flash
Player--one for IE and another for most other browsers; both v. 10.3.181.34. 
And still another for Chrome--10.3.181.35.  Even if you get both listed in
"Uninstall", one or the other may not be "loaded".

---------------------------------------------------
  Prescott Smith            preskut12@...

============================================================================
From: rolf-str [rolf-str@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 09:04 AM
To: Opera_Users [Opera_Users@yahoogroups.com]
Subject: Re: [Opera_Users] Opera 11, flash a nd Youtube

Katrina Knight  wrote:
> rolf-str@ wrote:
>>  When I installed flash, it didn't end up in the plugin
>> folder, so I followed the help instructions and did it myself.
>
> If it ends up in any of the locations listed for plug-ins at
> Help | About Opera, that should be okay. I don't actually have
> any plug-ins in the Opera plugins subdirectory. My copy of the
> flash dll is in c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\ and it works
> just fine there with all of my several installations of Opera.

I don't have it in that directory, but I have it in .../Adobe/Director.
np32dsw.dll 11.6... Adobe shockwave for director. Perhaps I will try
putting that in the macromedia/Flash directory as well.

> When downloaded the install file, are you sure that you got the
> right installation file? There are two - one for MS IE and one
> for Firefox and other browsers.

Hmm... I'm sure I didn't see any warning or choice about that when I
tried to download. If that's so, it is surely very practical indeed. :-)

Thank you for your help! I will try it out as soon as I have a day off
to do it.

cheers/Rolf

At 05:04 AM 08/04/2011 rolf-str@... wrote:

>  I don't have it in that directory, but I have it in
> .../Adobe/Director.
>  np32dsw.dll 11.6... Adobe shockwave for director. Perhaps I
> will try
>  putting that in the macromedia/Flash directory as well.

Flash is npswf32.dll, not np32dsw.dl.

Shockwave for director is a good plug-in to have, but you need
Flash for Youtube and various other sites. If you didn't see
anything about there being two versions when you downloaded what
you installed, it sounds to me like you may never have
downloaded the installer for Flash at all.

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

Messing about in WordPerfect, i.e. playing with macros, I created one
to open a .jpg of a calendar for 2012 in Opera. Filename
2012-calendar-540.jpg. The file is a saved .gif file converted to
.jpg in ACDSee.

So far, no problem, works perfectly.

Then I thought it would be nice to do the same for 2011. Same
procedure, same filename and macro except for the change from 2012 to
2011. Now I get an error message in Opera, saying that the file is unavailable.


It has nothing to do with the macro. Opening (or trying to open) the
files from the Opera menu, 2012-calendar-540.jpg opens fine and so
does copy-of-2011-calendar-540.jpg, but 2011-calendar-540.jpg won't
open. I changed the filename of 2011-calendar-540.jpg to
2011-calendar-540ORIG.jpg and that of copy-of-2011-calendar-540.jpg
to 2011-calendar-540.jpg - and it still; won't open. In other words,
the file that would open when it was called
copy-of-2011-calendar-540.jpg will not open when it is called
2011-calendar-540.jpg.

What is going on? Is it something to do with the computer's internal
calendar? Opera's internal calendar? (Can't believe it has one, but
what do I know?) Is there some magical property of 2011 at the
beginning of a filename? Will 2012- etc. fail to load in four months'
time, while 2011 opens fine?

Opera 11.50 (waiting to see how stable 11.51 is before installing). :-)

Cheers,

Harry

I always prefer to have the menubar showing. However with some
skins/themes each word in the menubar has an ampersand (&) superimposed on
it (see enclosed file). I realize this should show up as an underlined
letter but I don't know why some skins do this and others do not.  At the
moment I am using Tango CL 2.0. "Brushed metal" is ok but does not include
buttons for firefox or IE. It does include the clock. KDE has IE and
firefox buttons but the clock is shortened, menu is ok.
None show all properly. I've tried 36 skins, maybe I haven't found the
right one yet.
I'm using the latest version of Opera and windows 7, 64.
Any ideas?

DaveH

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90% CPUs: Long intermittent periods
Looking at Windows Taskmaster right now, Opera is using 90% of the CPUs. It
freezes for infuriating periods of time. Have to wait for typing to catch up.
Anyone have any experience with this?  Still going on after 2 days.

Using Opera 11.60 but it did it with earlier versions as well. Win 7 home 32
bit; ASUS P4P800 Deluxe E, Intel 3.2mhz, 3.4 GB RAM. Seven tabs open. One other
program OPEN--Zoot. Now it's not responding at all but back again. I have run an
A/V scan, Avast, recently.

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  Prescott Smith            preskut12@...

At 12:49 PM 12/09/2011 Pres wrote:

>90% CPUs: Long intermittent periods
>Looking at Windows Taskmaster right now, Opera is using 90% of
>the CPUs. It freezes for infuriating periods of time. Have to
>wait for typing to catch up. Anyone have any experience with
>this?  Still going on after 2 days.
>
>Using Opera 11.60 but it did it with earlier versions as well.
>Win 7 home 32 bit; ASUS P4P800 Deluxe E, Intel 3.2mhz, 3.4 GB
>RAM. Seven tabs open. One other program OPEN--Zoot. Now it's
>not responding at all but back again. I have run an A/V scan,
>Avast, recently.

I've seen excessive CPU usage with some sites that use Flash.
Try closing tabs one at a time time when this happens. If you
can identify which site(s) it happens with, figuring out why
might be easier.

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

Just installed v11.60 (previously 11.52). (WinXP-SP3, not that that is
likely to have any bearing on the matter).

I have the "tab bar" settings as follows:
Placement: right
Style: images & text on right
Wrapping: Show extender menu

With 11.52, this accommodated 26 tabs. If I had more open, the chevron
icon at the bottom allowed me to access the surplus.

With 11.60, the tabs take more space (for no good reason that I can
determine), so there is only room for 22. This would be OK, except that
there seems to be no way to access any more. The chevron icon has gone,
and I can't find any replacement. Of course, I can use the "Window" menu
or Ctrl-Tab; but why is the "extender menu" setting offered if it doesn't
actually work?

I think I shall have to revert to 11.52.

At 02:20 PM 12/09/2011 Fred Bone wrote:
>I have the "tab bar" settings as follows:
>Placement: right
>Style: images & text on right
>Wrapping: Show extender menu
>
>With 11.52, this accommodated 26 tabs. If I had more open, the
>chevron
>icon at the bottom allowed me to access the surplus.
>
>With 11.60, the tabs take more space (for no good reason that I
>can
>determine), so there is only room for 22. This would be OK,
>except that
>there seems to be no way to access any more. The chevron icon
>has gone,
>and I can't find any replacement. Of course, I can use the
>"Window" menu
>or Ctrl-Tab; but why is the "extender menu" setting offered if
>it doesn't
>actually work?

Have you tried switching to a different skin? I just checked,
and the extender menu works fine for me using those settings
with the skin I've been using but when I switch to the standard
opera skin I get the results you describe.


--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

At 03:07 PM 12/09/2011 Harry Lake wrote:
>I have an idea that there may have been a mention of this by
>one of the developers on the developers' blog
>http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ No time to check at the
>moment, in the middle of supper,,, Otherwise I'll look later. I
>may be imagining it, but I think there was a refernce to
>dropping one of the skins. I see that I have two Opera Standard
>skins, and they are different!

Prior to 11.6 recent versions of Opera came with two skins -
Opera Standard and Windows Native. The Windows Native skin ise
gone from 11.6, at least it is in my installation of 11.6. The
version of Opera Standard that comes with 11.6 is unusable for
me because I prefer a Windows color scheme that uses light text
on a dark background and Opera takes that and provides white
text on a white background in some places.

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

On 9 December 2011 at 14:38, Katrina Knight said:

> At 02:20 PM 12/09/2011 Fred Bone wrote:
> >I have the "tab bar" settings as follows:
> >Placement: right
> >Style: images & text on right
> >Wrapping: Show extender menu
> >
> >With 11.52, this accommodated 26 tabs. If I had more open, the
> >chevron
> >icon at the bottom allowed me to access the surplus.
> >
> >With 11.60, the tabs take more space (for no good reason that I
> >can
> >determine), so there is only room for 22. This would be OK,
> >except that
> >there seems to be no way to access any more. The chevron icon
> >has gone,
> >and I can't find any replacement. Of course, I can use the
> >"Window" menu
> >or Ctrl-Tab; but why is the "extender menu" setting offered if
> >it doesn't
> >actually work?
>
> Have you tried switching to a different skin? I just checked,
> and the extender menu works fine for me using those settings
> with the skin I've been using but when I switch to the standard
> opera skin I get the results you describe.

11.60 removed the "Windows Native" skin, according to the Changelogs.
That being so, I didn't have a different skin to switch to.

I created a small skin.ini with "Native Skin = 1" set, and that got the
functionality back.

However, it also produced some minor problems elsewhere, which I'll try
to fix tomorrow. I expect I omitted something else crucial, and I just
need to do the job properly.

At 05:52 PM 12/09/2011 Fred Bone wrote:
>On 9 December 2011 at 14:38, Katrina Knight said:
>  > Have you tried switching to a different skin? I just
> checked,
> > and the extender menu works fine for me using those settings
>
> > with the skin I've been using but when I switch to the
> standard
> > opera skin I get the results you describe.
>
>11.60 removed the "Windows Native" skin, according to the
>Changelogs.
>That being so, I didn't have a different skin to switch to.

In addition to creating your own, there are plenty of other
skins available to download. Some of them are better than others
but it is easy to check out a bunch of them then pick one that
suits you.

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@...

Thanks Katrina,

	 I couldn't isolate a particular tab but I uninstalled Flash Player and
re-installed it and that helped some.  Why do sites make use of what appears to
be a very imperfect support.  What do other sites use and is it possible to
encourage more use of whatever that is if it isn't more problematic.

	 But something else is going on:  in Taskmgr/Processes, it shows Opera at a
higher percentage of CPU use than in Performance Monitor.  And what appears here
that doesn't appear in Taskmgr. is Deferred Procedure Calls at often a higher
rate than Opera.  And DPC's I guess indicate a problem with a driver somewhere
but might be any.  Back to Windows Support, if that's not an oxymoron.

---------------------------------------------------
  Prescott Smith            preskut12@...

============================================================================
From: Katrina Knight [kk1raven@...]
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 06:00 PM
To: Opera_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Opera_Users] 90% CPU use

At 12:49 PM 12/09/2011 Pres wrote:

>90% CPUs: Long intermittent periods
>Looking at Windows Taskmaster right now, Opera is using 90% of
>the CPUs. It freezes for infuriating periods of time. Have to
>wait for typing to catch up. Anyone have any experience with
>this? Still going on after 2 days.
>
>Using Opera 11.60 but it did it with earlier versions as well.
>Win 7 home 32 bit; ASUS P4P800 Deluxe E, Intel 3.2mhz, 3.4 GB
>RAM. Seven tabs open. One other program OPEN--Zoot. Now it's
>not responding at all but back again. I have run an A/V scan,
>Avast, recently.

I've seen excessive CPU usage with some sites that use Flash.
Try closing tabs one at a time time when this happens. If you
can identify which site(s) it happens with, figuring out why
might be easier.

--
Katrina Knight
kk1raven@... <kk1raven%40gmail.com>

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:35:02 -0000, Pres <preskut12@...> wrote:

>  But something else is going on:  in Taskmgr/Processes, it shows Opera
> at a higher percentage of CPU use than in Performance Monitor.  And what
> appears here that doesn't appear in Taskmgr. is Deferred Procedure Calls
> at often a higher rate than Opera.  And DPC's I guess indicate a problem
> with a driver somewhere but might be any.  Back to Windows Support, if
> that's not an oxymoron.

If there is general slowness on the machine rather than only in Opera, I'd
head straight into hardware manager to see if Windows has dropped the HD
into PIO mode.

= Malcolm.

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On 9 December 2011 at 22:52, I said:

[...]
> I created a small skin.ini with "Native Skin = 1" set, and that got the
> functionality back.
>
> However, it also produced some minor problems elsewhere, which I'll try to
> fix tomorrow. I expect I omitted something else crucial, and I just need
> to do the job properly.

What got lost was visible checkboxes, both in web pages and in Opera's
dialogs. After some research (in the helpful but slightly outdated "Opera
skinning" pages on dev.opera.com) I found the relevant section ("Checkbox
Skin" - I should have guessed) and added that, which has cured the
problem. I then found that the same was true of "Radio Button Skin" and
"Dropdown Skin". I have a feeling that some others may need adding, but
at least I now know where to start looking.

However, the documentation seems to suggest that this should not have
been necessary ("To keep your skin.ini file small and easy to read you
should only specify sections you have actually changed, and miss out the
rest. Opera will then fallback to the “Opera Standard” skin for any
elements you want to just look the same as the default.")

Anyway, here is my skin.ini:
====================
# This file describes the skin for the Opera browser

[Info]
Name 			 = Native Skin Override
Author 			 = FJPB
Version 			 = 3
Preview Image 		 =

[Options]
Native skin 		 = 1

[Radio Button Skin]
Native              = 1

[Checkbox Skin]
Native                                  = 1

[Dropdown Skin]
Native              = 1
====================

On 9 December 2011 at 18:06, Katrina Knight said:

> At 05:52 PM 12/09/2011 Fred Bone wrote:
> >On 9 December 2011 at 14:38, Katrina Knight said:
> >  > Have you tried switching to a different skin? I just
> > checked,
> > > and the extender menu works fine for me using those settings
> >
> > > with the skin I've been using but when I switch to the
> > standard
> > > opera skin I get the results you describe.
> >
> >11.60 removed the "Windows Native" skin, according to the
> >Changelogs.
> >That being so, I didn't have a different skin to switch to.
>
> In addition to creating your own, there are plenty of other
> skins available to download. Some of them are better than others
> but it is easy to check out a bunch of them then pick one that
> suits you.

Thanks, but what I want is to get back the appearance I had under 11.52
with the "Windows Native" skin. Nothing like that around that I can find.

Thanks for all replies.

Malcolm,  the HD is a SATA and it shows nothing one way or another in Device
Manager.  Not sure how I'd check otherwise.  It is general.  Opera now appears
to have only a modest load from 2-35%, depending I suppose on how much DPCs are
taking.

Jan, it's not a laptop but yes, I've been avoiding getting into the unfamiliar
Process Explorer and xPerf even more so, but it looks as though that will be
necessary.  DPCs have been running at 75-80% of CPU usuage all day.

Will let you know if I find out anything.  Thought it might be 3 network
adapters coded yellow triangle in device manager, but these all pertain to V6 to
V4 handling which doesn't apply to my setup so I just disabled them.  Again
thanks for the help

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From: "Malcolm Austen" [opera@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:23 AM
To: Opera_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Opera_Users] 90% CPU use

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:35:02 -0000, Pres <preskut12@...> wrote:

>  But something else is going on:  in Taskmgr/Processes, it shows Opera
> at a higher percentage of CPU use than in Performance Monitor.  And what
> appears here that doesn't appear in Taskmgr. is Deferred Procedure Calls
> at often a higher rate than Opera.  And DPC's I guess indicate a problem
> with a driver somewhere but might be any.  Back to Windows Support, if
> that's not an oxymoron.

If there is general slowness on the machine rather than only in Opera, I'd
head straight into hardware manager to see if Windows has dropped the HD
into PIO mode.

= Malcolm.

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