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  • Members: 2250
  • Category: Energy
  • Founded: Mar 4, 2005
  • Language: English
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This group is for discussion of the expanding options for energy efficient home refrigeration It does not exclude conventional compressor type refrigerators. Advancements and evolving strategies, like chest freezer conversions, are ever more workable, and highly efficient, with today's modern units.

We will discuss passive technologies, like root cellars, ice houses, winter ventilation, super insulation, cooling cabinets, brine solutions, night-sky radiant ice making, even non-cooling food preservation, and how they can be improved. Also absorption refrigeration systems, like the Crosley "Icy-Ball" and commercial units that RVs and many off-grid homes use, and other heat based refrigeration systems, like Solar thermal.

This is an important frontier in energy conservation. 30% of an efficient home's electricity could go to refrigeration. In many climates, that is as much energy as is used for heating. It can also hold true for energy efficient homes in the north.

Refrigeration represents one of the toughest hurdles toward truly independent off-grid living. Propane deliveries, expensive, oversize, factory built, photovoltaic arrays, or larger wind energy systems, may not be the most desirable, cost effective, reliable, or self-reliant strategies.

We also welcome discussions about how to live without any type of refrigeration.

Though the central theme of this forum is refrigerator alternatives, it is open to excursions into the closely related subject of natural living-space cooling, and air conditioning. These topics are intrinsically linked.

This forum will serve as a think-tank and archival storage for new and better ideas.


-= Keep It Cool =-

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Re: Net Zero Energy Buildings
Yes, cast iron radiators are on Craigslist too. Having just torn out the rest of my ceilings on the second and first floors, I am committed to radiant floors.
Posted - Sat May 18, 2013 4:04 pm
Maud Essen
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Re: Net Zero Energy Buildings
"lacking cast iron radiators" STL has a least of couple of architectural salvage places (besides the Re-Store). I'm thinking of one way down Broadway, and
Posted - Sat May 18, 2013 3:32 pm
Heather Brenner
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Re: Net Zero Energy Buildings
It sounds like your "gravity" system is thermo-siphon. I use that with wood and solar to heat water it works great. Max
Posted - Sat May 18, 2013 2:30 pm
max_stemple
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Re: Baseboard-type heaters [was: Net Zero Energy Buildings]
Larry, have you seen this site? http://www.builditsolar.com/ A lot of the people who post on that site are on the SimplySolar list. I like SimplySolar best,
Posted - Sat May 18, 2013 12:45 pm
Maud Essen
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Re: Baseboard-type heaters [was: Net Zero Energy Buildings]
maud, thanks. no i was not aware of those. and i will check them out. still, if someone here knows the answers directly and wants to reply to me off-line,
Posted - Sat May 18, 2013 11:54 am
Larry
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