Byron wrote: Hi Judith: I suspect that in a socialist society--even though a great improvement in behaviors will occur--there will still be a handful of people...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Nov 5, 2009 3:23 pm
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Hi Byron Ah uhhhmmm. Need to think about that! What if 'we' got the wrong guy? Jude ======================================== Message Received: Nov 05 2009,...
Interesting responses. It seems that many of you favor a frontier justice system for what may be behavior caused by genetic defects, parental abuse or a...
Julian: "Those serial killers who have had a normal upbringing nevertheless may take their cues from society outside their family." Even if they took their...
Judith: I am not speaking of the wrong guy. I am assuming that we got the right one. Byron ... From: Judith Stephenson To: WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
Hi Paddy I really can't agree. Whether a society of freely associating individuals (or the institutions of that society) would want to exercise a right over...
Over exceeding my posts but they were only little ones. Michael Sex with a 16 year old is ok, but a 15 year old gets you strung up? What if a majority of the...
Something for the hypocrite politicians to think about at the cenotaph on Sunday perhaps: 22nd September 1917. Ypres. Harry Patch, 18, unwilling conscript into...
Byron wrote: Julian: "Those serial killers who have had a normal upbringing nevertheless may take their cues from society outside their family." Even if they...
Julian Vein
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Nov 5, 2009 5:34 pm
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First of all, pedophilia is not a choice. Blaming the pedophiles parents or environment is ridiculous. It sounds like the early 80s when people who thought...
Julian: However unbelievable it may sound, there is no evidence to support your contention. I mentioned a group that should have been normal but weren't....
... In ... house ... own ... This is simmilar to the procedure adopted in many European countries in earlier (pre-capitalist) time to deal with those seen to...
Hi Richard As a matter of fact I agree with you about Faberge eggs and Mozart, apart from the Requiem, and he only wrote half of that. I can't work out why you...
Hiya Paddy LOL. I didn't expect to get into this sort of debate, so quickly. The problem, as I see it is one consent. In the absence of a consensual...
Hi Gwynn Just to draw out one other aspect of this which you haven't mentioned, it was also very much a working class practice, and provided a way for working...
Hi James. These figures for the Kung San and the US are for what we would judicially call murder, ie killing within ones own community. Wars are quite a...
Hi Meghann, So you propose we substitute a common recognized framerwork of civilization with the "law of the jungle". Where people are forced to unite into...
From: "Richard" <hud955@...> ... institutionally that it wishes to limit what people may hold as personal possessions.... ... ***** Hi Richard Perhaps...
This news story came out last week in the London Evening Standard, but I couldn't find the link, found this today..... Property tycoons see their personal...
Business news, from London's Evening Standard. (no-link) Shell is to join BP in Iraq after winning the contract to deveelop a giant oilfield there. Its...
Oh, my heart bleeds for them! ======================================== Message Received: Nov 06 2009, 03:03 PM From: "PeterH" To: WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com Cc:...
Dear Paddy and Richard, A lot of different ideas have been expressed here, but surely when we end up with "So the question seems to be whether I am projecting...
I'm very much in agreement with your general concerns Dick as regards putting over the socialist case. But I think there are all kinds of conditions of men...
LOL! No, I don't think you are some mad Maoist, Paddy. Of course not. I am just trying tease out some of the possible implications of what you are saying -...
Hi Meghann "I was simply stating that people are alot less likely to do something awful when there is a fear of real physical pain involved." So in other...
Well the Duke of Westminster is one of those that could do with a bit of that treatment. Perhaps we should try hanging out outside his 'house' subjecting him...
... ================== Actually, you're picking on the wrong man. I recall a few years ago when some public figures were asked if the working class still...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Nov 6, 2009 10:44 pm
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This is the incident you're referring to : http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/31/world/london-journal-now-it-s-noblesse-oblige-vs-the-trickle-downers.html I think...
Hi Byron Ouch! Suppose you are right in your belief that environment might sometimes have nothing at all to do with the violent and anti-social way in which...
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