Travis, ... final ... The way you would look at this would be partially governed by how you considered the particle action in relation to the wave. In the...
... Travis? ... Interesting. My understanding is that deBroglie never actually presented any formalism for his "pilot wave" concept. That was done by Bohm;...
... I think there is some wire-crossing happening here. According to dBB, the wave function has to be taken as *physically real*. It is every bit as...
Pseudo-stream of consciousness response here, with my conclusions summarized and illustrated at the end: (Terminology: by "wf", I mean the full wave function...
... It depends on what you mean by "equivalent." I'm taking it to mean "equivalent in so far as the motion of particles is concerned" (which of course in turn...
... My understanding is that an electromagnetic wave _can_ be described entirely by the electrical and magnetic fields; there are no "entangled E-and-M"...
Travis, ... If both the particles and the waves were not both considered real I wouldn't give dBB the time of day. To be honest after Gibbon's came out with...
Jonathan, ... make ... If you think of the wave in a lineal fashion that would be true. There is another clasisical way to conceptualize this and that is as a ...
... True enough. However, these two approaches are mathematically equivalent: you can derive either one from the other. It's not like there's anything in the...
... described ... of ... oscillating ... but ... nothing ... There ... I'm not so certain that I would completely agree with this. I would (loosely) analogue...
I'll try to keep this brief, since it is definitely straying off-topic. ... As would I. In particular, note that dBB and OQM are mathematically equivalent (at...
Jonathan, ... dynamics ... the ... What I see here is that you have physically disconnected the guide waves from each other in terms of the media from which...
To all, Not to change the topic but rather return to it and that being dBB and its implications as per Quantum computing. I think I have really missed the...
In the papers that Travis pointed to in the "Configuration Space" thread, there was a discussion about this sort of thing. The impression that I got is that...
Jonathan, ... Yes as you say its mentioned in the Goldstein and company paper. Also, I have always been aware of the postulate in dBB. What I wasn't aware of ...
To all, In reading and (attempting) to understand all these papers that Travis has pointed to and that I have stumbled across, I have found myself more and...
This group has been inactive for a long time, and I've had to clean up a bunch of spam and ban offenders. New members will need to be approved before they can...
The classical foundation for a new quantum mechanics:  Duane, G.S., 2001: Violation of Bell’s inequality in synchronized hyperchaos, Found. Phys. Lett.,...
In 1924 - pre-dating conventional quantum mechanics - de Broglie viewed the foundations of QM as being due to the interactions of internal clock-like...
On 3/9/09 10:09 AM, "bell_bohm Moderator" <bell_bohm-owner@yahoogroups.com> ... I have a degree in astronomy from Caltech, where I was a student in Richard ...
Hi Eric, It's been a long time since I've seen anything except spam posted and interestingly enough all you erasers took us back to my last post. I also...
Hi Phil. I was the one who created this group way back when. I handed moderation over to Travis at some point. When I started the group, I was a grad student...
Bohm gives an interesting account of superconductivity, on the BCS level, in *The Undivided Universe*, which despite its name is basically a textbook on...
That is what I thought the approach would be. I read Bohm's "Wholeness and the Implicate Order" but not "The Undivided Universe". I will have to get a...
There is a recent paper where for the first time a practical application has been found for string theory in relation to high temperature superconductivity. Â ...
Note this is an application of some mathematical techniques associated with string theory (namely AdS/CFT) rather than an application of "string theory" as a...
Several bloggers mentioned the same thing you have. The popular press accounts attempted to portray it as support for "string theory" generally - a first...
Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm  I had not heard of this...
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