Hi Gareld

I can email you the All6 library if you like. I'm not sure where it came
from. I downloaded it from a leak that David Potter (I think)posted some
time ago. I use it fairly often.

Mike McKay

-----Original Message-----
From: GareldMCE@... [mailto:GareldMCE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:25 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] Thanks for the help!


Sent the drawings to the printer 35 minutes before the client meeting (I am
sure no one else ever pushes the limit that close :-).

Followed Bills suggestion and drew polylines for the other buildings on the
Plot Plan.  Was hoping to make them look like the main house but.....

Thanks to Deborah, Glenn, Jan and Wayson for the info on palm trees.  I was
not able to find the ALL6 file in Michael Leone's web site
(http://www.3dbuilders.com/Library.html).  Probably just in too big a hurry.
I put tall poles in to locate them on the property and had intended to color
them brown and put Jan's date palm on top but did not get to it.  Maybe
before the next design review.

Thanks again to everyone.

Gareld McEathron

Oops, I meant "link" there. Sorry David, I didn't mean to get you in
trouble!
MJM

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike McKay [mailto:mmckay@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:10 AM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chief-users] Thanks for the help!


Hi Gareld

I can email you the All6 library if you like. I'm not sure where it came
from. I downloaded it from a leak that David Potter (I think)posted some
time ago. I use it fairly often.

Mike McKay

-----Original Message-----
From: GareldMCE@... [mailto:GareldMCE@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:25 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] Thanks for the help!


Sent the drawings to the printer 35 minutes before the client meeting (I am
sure no one else ever pushes the limit that close :-).

Followed Bills suggestion and drew polylines for the other buildings on the
Plot Plan.  Was hoping to make them look like the main house but.....

Thanks to Deborah, Glenn, Jan and Wayson for the info on palm trees.  I was
not able to find the ALL6 file in Michael Leone's web site
(http://www.3dbuilders.com/Library.html).  Probably just in too big a hurry.
I put tall poles in to locate them on the property and had intended to color
them brown and put Jan's date palm on top but did not get to it.  Maybe
before the next design review.

Thanks again to everyone.

Gareld McEathron

DMassey@... wrote:

> A while back I had bought 3d home interiors and was going to use it
> with 3d home architect.  I understood that the two programs worked
> together.  I never got around to trying it but instead I bought chief
> architect.  Can I somehow import the files of all the interior
> furniture etc. into chief architect and use them?
>

       Yes, but you may want to check the names of the libraries and change them
slightly
where they match existing libraries in chief.

Dennis Gavin




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Lenita,

Just draw the walls all one style and then group select the walls you
want to change.

--
John D. Lee
JDL Construction
General Building Contractor
Cottage Grove, OR  97424
541-942-1313

I have finally mastered creating cad block to be placed in my own cad
block library but now have another problem/question.  How do I take
those details (cad blocks) from my library and place them into the
layout.  From layout I cannot open the library.  I have minimized the
layout, open the library from PL1, chosen my cad block, and then
maximized the layout but could not click on the page and place the
block.  I have tried to place the block in my attic level (off to the
side) and both copied and sent to layout.  This works with the first
detail but when I do this with a second detail (block), the first
disappears on the layout.  I guess I really am having a hard time
understanding how this whole cad block, cad detail, layout relationship
works.  Any tidbits will help.  By the way, you folks are too quick.  I
finally saw a question the other night that I could answer and when I
went to type a response to it, it was already answered three times!

Hello, all together!

Who knows more??
Does V.7 Fixtures offer for humans, animals etc.?
Textures do not throw shadows and with the opinion
without colour are Textuen not professionally.


Klaus Kleber

In a message dated 02/28/2001 5:12:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
gkozak@... writes:


> How about a few tips from someone out there aimed at allowing me to
> just delete all the old house info and import all the new?

gkozak (can I call you g for short?)
Try using the edit area command to copy the plan from one file to another
(after deleting the old walls).
Matt


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Fred,

Create a CAD Detail and paste your created details into that and then you
can send it to layout.

HTH,

Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Donato" <frdonato@...>
To: "Chief users" <chief-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:26 AM
Subject: [chief-users] Placing Cad Details into the Layout


> I have finally mastered creating cad block to be placed in my own cad
> block library but now have another problem/question.  How do I take
> those details (cad blocks) from my library and place them into the
> layout.  From layout I cannot open the library.  I have minimized the
> layout, open the library from PL1, chosen my cad block, and then
> maximized the layout but could not click on the page and place the
> block.  I have tried to place the block in my attic level (off to the
> side) and both copied and sent to layout.  This works with the first
> detail but when I do this with a second detail (block), the first
> disappears on the layout.  I guess I really am having a hard time
> understanding how this whole cad block, cad detail, layout relationship
> works.  Any tidbits will help.  By the way, you folks are too quick.  I
> finally saw a question the other night that I could answer and when I
> went to type a response to it, it was already answered three times!
>
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Thanks Gordon, Good tip, I'll give it a try.

Larry

--- In chief-users@y..., Gordon Martinsen <marty1@i...> wrote:
> At 22:46 28/02/01 +0000, you wrote:
> >All:
> >
> >Has anyone else had a string of dimensions vanish then, when you
try
> >to add them again, the first string comes back gain?  Just now you
see it
> >now you don't.
> >
> >Larry
> Hi Larry
>
> I've had the problem before - usually in conjunction with using
different
> layers for dimensions. I have reported this to ART.
>
> As a work around I found that if you draw a cad line across the top
of your
> drawing then select and drag it across the plan this brought the
dims back
> into view like wiping a window.
>
> Try it.
> Gordon Martinsen

Thanks for the response Geoff. But no it had nothing to do with Undo.
After adding another dimension string (to replace the lost one) at
some point I got the first one back. I had, however, assigned the
both the first and the replacement dimension strings to a "User
Layer" and the layer was on. Other dimensions assigned to that layer
were displayed while the one vanished.

I was begining to think that I had lost it (sanity). :o)

Larry

"Geoff Francis" <geoff@f...> wrote:
> Larry
>
> Perchance you didn't use Undo after first entering the dimensions?
That was
> (and still is) a problem with 6.01, but I'm not sure about 7.0.
Using Undo
> might be the culprit.
>
> Regards
> Geoff Francis Perth Western Australia
>
> > All:
> >
> > Has anyone else had a string of dimensions vanish then, when you
try
> > to add them again, the first string comes back gain?

Thanks Mike. I don't want to risk over-kill on this issue but, for
general information, it may be worth noting that my problem was also
on a foundation plan.

Larry

"mjp" <mjp@p...> wrote:
> Larry,
> I have the same problem with a foundation plan. It seems that when
I go to
> show items, every third time these dimensions disappear. Go to show
items
> again, and they return. Strange.
> Mike

Klaus:

Ich glaube, daß Sie einen Übersetzer für Ihre Meldung benutzten. Ich
entschied mich, einen Übersetzer für meine Antwort zu benutzen. Chief-
V7 hat nicht " 3-D-fixtures " für Leute, Haustiere, Bäume oder andere
Landschaftsgestaltung. Die Hauptfunktion von Chief-Architect war,
Gebäude zu entwerfen und Bauakten zu zeichnen. Chief-V7 erstellt viel
besser architektonisches 3-D, als Chief-V6 zum Tun fähig war. Die
Verbesserungen sollten fortfahren.

Chief-V7 exportiert eine gute Datei " des 3-d dxf ". Das " 3-d dxf "
kann in anderen graphischen Programmen benutzt werden, wenn Sie ein
anderes graphisches Programm haben.

Larry Kumpost

kleber.klaus@t... wrote:
> Hello, all together!
>
> Who knows more??
> Does V.7 Fixtures offer for humans, animals etc.?
> Textures do not throw shadows and with the opinion
> without colour are Textuen not professionally.
>
>
> Klaus Kleber

Can we not get the glass in cabinets with muntins to be transparent
or am I just having a problem?

Dennis Gavin

Yeah, I think so too.

Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: <lark@...>
To: <chief-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: [chief-users] Re: Fixtures


> Klaus:
>
> Ich glaube, daß Sie einen Übersetzer für Ihre Meldung benutzten. Ich
> entschied mich, einen Übersetzer für meine Antwort zu benutzen. Chief-
> V7 hat nicht " 3-D-fixtures " für Leute, Haustiere, Bäume oder andere
> Landschaftsgestaltung. Die Hauptfunktion von Chief-Architect war,
> Gebäude zu entwerfen und Bauakten zu zeichnen. Chief-V7 erstellt viel
> besser architektonisches 3-D, als Chief-V6 zum Tun fähig war. Die
> Verbesserungen sollten fortfahren.
>
> Chief-V7 exportiert eine gute Datei " des 3-d dxf ". Das " 3-d dxf "
> kann in anderen graphischen Programmen benutzt werden, wenn Sie ein
> anderes graphisches Programm haben.
>
> Larry Kumpost
>
> kleber.klaus@t... wrote:
> > Hello, all together!
> >
> > Who knows more??
> > Does V.7 Fixtures offer for humans, animals etc.?
> > Textures do not throw shadows and with the opinion
> > without colour are Textuen not professionally.
> >
> >
> > Klaus Kleber
>
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In a message dated 03/01/2001 2:31:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
dgavin@... writes:


> Can we not get the glass in cabinets with muntins to be transparent
> or am I just having a problem?

Dennis:
Try adjusting the transparency of the the glass.
Matt


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

To all,

Including ART if you read these messages (and you should). I am sick of
working 16 hours a day because I am using a tool that is making me totally
unproductive. I sent a fix it list To ART and did not receive any response
until I sent another question and requested acknowledgment of my fix it
list, then I received a question about one item and notification that they
are working on a patch.

I have previously asked if there existed a list of known problems and bugs,
it seems to me that we all may be wasting heaps of time discussing and
rediscussing things that are allready, hopefully, being fixed. Why cant we
have a simple list to print out so we all know what is a bug and being fixed
so we can get on with other things instead of wasting a lot of time trying
and discussing different workarounds without success.

Has anyone read the list I am talking about? it was posted 2 days ago
message No 22675. Everyone seems to be talking about wishes for version 8
but I just want to work now.

I have spent the last two days trying to find a stupid simple hatch pattern
without success, I contacted ART Tech support and the answer was that Chief
cannot edit or create a pattern file. (how basic is this?) It seems you need
a program called Patternmaker which I have downloaded and have gone through
the tutorials and help files and generally futzed around, now I have some
patterns to make a nice dress but still cannot work out how to create the
hatch pattern I need, what a waste of time. And the dress doesnt really
match my tattoos anyway.

Sorry to clog up the site but I had to get this off my chest having recently
recovered from stage 4 cancer and dont want to be back in hospital with a
stress attack. Chief 6 helped me with the cancer because I took a laptop to
hospital and kept working to keep my brain active. Chief 7 is trying to
destroy me.

Sorry I had meant to keep this short.

Tom West
Sydney, Australia

PS. Pretty pictures are great and should be part of the program but none of
my clients want to pay extra for the time involved so I cannot afford the
luxury of spending too much extra time, anyone else have this problem?

Tom,
This was send the 27/2/2001

Tom,
Try the following;
Options, Default Setup, Plan Setup, Wall hatch spacing.
I do have a wall hatching were the space between the two lines is larger but
that might not be what you want either----- Original Message -----
This was send the 26/2/2001
Tom,
this is a P.S.
there where some *.pat files in the fault, but if you can not find them or you
have other reasons, let me know your email and I'll send the Acad.pat so you can
do your brick hatch. by the way, I set the scale at about 5, but try and see
what works for you.
Jan

Complaining is one thing but if someone offers help and/or advise and you do not
take this it's your own problem and not the software.
You never gave me your email, so I could send you a *.pat file that could have
done the trick and you never specified the spacing of the hatch you are after.
Now you have spend two days on a hatch pattern and still no luck. In the past
one user needed a hatch pattern and a kind Chief user made it for all to use.
This can only work when you are specific in your requirements. Be grateful that
you can use other hatch patterns as this was only added in V6.

I think I make this the last message to this group as some people call me a
cranky, complaining twit and others do not listen anyway.
   From: Tom West
   To: chief-users
   Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:26 AM
   Subject: [chief-users] Totally Stressed Out


   To all,

   Including ART if you read these messages (and you should). I am sick of
   working 16 hours a day because I am using a tool that is making me totally
   unproductive. I have spent the last two days trying to find a stupid simple
hatch pattern
   without success, I contacted ART Tech support and the answer was that Chief
   cannot edit or create a pattern file. (how basic is this?)


   It seems you need
   a program called Patternmaker which I have downloaded and have gone through
   the tutorials and help files and generally futzed around, now I have some
   patterns to make a nice dress but still cannot work out how to create the
   hatch pattern I need, what a waste of time. And the dress doesnt really
   match my tattoos anyway.

   Sorry to clog up the site but I had to get this off my chest having recently
   recovered from stage 4 cancer and dont want to be back in hospital with a
   stress attack. Chief 6 helped me with the cancer because I took a laptop to
   hospital and kept working to keep my brain active. Chief 7 is trying to
   destroy me.

   Sorry I had meant to keep this short.

   Tom West
   Sydney, Australia

   PS. Pretty pictures are great and should be part of the program but none of
   my clients want to pay extra for the time involved so I cannot afford the
   luxury of spending too much extra time, anyone else have this problem?



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No.
Carey J. Stanly
Lake Conroe Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom West <WESTPLAN@...>
To: chief-users <chief-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:26 PM
Subject: [chief-users] Totally Stressed Out


> To all,
>
> Including ART if you read these messages (and you should). I am sick of
> working 16 hours a day because I am using a tool that is making me totally
> unproductive. I sent a fix it list To ART and did not receive any response
> until I sent another question and requested acknowledgment of my fix it
> list, then I received a question about one item and notification that they
> are working on a patch.
>
> I have previously asked if there existed a list of known problems and
bugs,
> it seems to me that we all may be wasting heaps of time discussing and
> rediscussing things that are allready, hopefully, being fixed. Why cant we
> have a simple list to print out so we all know what is a bug and being
fixed
> so we can get on with other things instead of wasting a lot of time trying
> and discussing different workarounds without success.
>
> Has anyone read the list I am talking about? it was posted 2 days ago
> message No 22675. Everyone seems to be talking about wishes for version 8
> but I just want to work now.
>
> I have spent the last two days trying to find a stupid simple hatch
pattern
> without success, I contacted ART Tech support and the answer was that
Chief
> cannot edit or create a pattern file. (how basic is this?) It seems you
need
> a program called Patternmaker which I have downloaded and have gone
through
> the tutorials and help files and generally futzed around, now I have some
> patterns to make a nice dress but still cannot work out how to create the
> hatch pattern I need, what a waste of time. And the dress doesnt really
> match my tattoos anyway.
>
> Sorry to clog up the site but I had to get this off my chest having
recently
> recovered from stage 4 cancer and dont want to be back in hospital with a
> stress attack. Chief 6 helped me with the cancer because I took a laptop
to
> hospital and kept working to keep my brain active. Chief 7 is trying to
> destroy me.
>
> Sorry I had meant to keep this short.
>
> Tom West
> Sydney, Australia
>
> PS. Pretty pictures are great and should be part of the program but none
of
> my clients want to pay extra for the time involved so I cannot afford the
> luxury of spending too much extra time, anyone else have this problem?

I wouldn't have asked if I hadn't tried that already.  Transparency seems to
work okay
with standard glass doors but not with the muntins doors. Am I missing something
or am I having
a problem with my computer?  The gray glass doesn't even show the same color
with the muntin
glass. Now that I think of it I am also having a problem with a slab countertop
that is not taking
the material assigned.  In reading many posts these last several weeks it seems
that there are a lot of
problems with the program.  Not trying to "pass blame" just curious of there is
an issue that is causing
all of these problems.   It seems a lot of people are having to reboot, shut
down, etc.etc.  By the same
token those with Win 2K seem to be having no problems. ( I have win '98)  I'd
settle for a simple answer
to my original question for now, does the glass in the muntins behave the same
as regular glass?

Dennis Gavin




MKDesignCo@... wrote:

> In a message dated 03/01/2001 2:31:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> dgavin@... writes:
>
>
> > Can we not get the glass in cabinets with muntins to be transparent
> > or am I just having a problem?
>
> Dennis:
> Try adjusting the transparency of the the glass.
> Matt
>
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Dennis,

"does the glass in the muntins behave the same
as regular glass?"

The answer to your question is yes.

Make sure your cabinet is defined for glass doors under the 'cabinet
front' tab.

Under the materials tab select cab glass and make sure the transparency
setting is very close to totally transparent under the advanced
settings.

Dean

Gavin wrote:

> I wouldn't have asked if I hadn't tried that already.  Transparency
> seems to
> work okay
> with standard glass doors but not with the muntins doors. Am I missing
> something
> or am I having
> a problem with my computer?  The gray glass doesn't even show the same
> color
> with the muntin
> glass. Now that I think of it I am also having a problem with a slab
> countertop
> that is not taking
> the material assigned.  In reading many posts these last several weeks
> it seems
> that there are a lot of
> problems with the program.  Not trying to "pass blame" just curious of
> there is
> an issue that is causing
> all of these problems.   It seems a lot of people are having to
> reboot, shut
> down, etc.etc.  By the same
> token those with Win 2K seem to be having no problems. ( I have win
> '98)  I'd
> settle for a simple answer
> to my original question for now, does the glass in the muntins behave
> the same
> as regular glass?
>
> Dennis Gavin
>

Tom, Jan

I'm not sure which of you authored this comment -
" I think I make this the last message to this group as some people call me
a cranky, complaining twit and others do not listen anyway" -
but I'd like to make the following observations:

1. There is no crime in getting cranky occasionally, as long as you don't
get destructive with it. If it is essentially constructive, it's positive
and worthwhile.

2. Most companies have a "Complaints" Department - either officially or
unofficially (Some call it "Service" Department - how's that for positive?).
Without complainers, they'd be out of work and nothing would get fixed.

3. People DO listen and read. But I guess most of us have our own stresses
and pressures that demand attention, so it is only the minority that
respond.

Any company (ART included) that ignores what some would call whingers,
rebels, troublemakers is destined to be average. Please keep up the flow of
real suggestions, ieas, problems, etc, so that they may be accepted,
rejected, adapted, etc, in a progressive manner. I for one, would seriously
miss your input (even if I don't understand everything you say - but that's
my "Twittiness" showing through).

Finally, I apologise for not responding to your previous posts. All I can do
is cite item #3 above.

Regards to all (particularly Bill and others in Seattle region)
Geoff Francis
Perth Western Australia

Dennis,

I'm running w98 and glass muntin doors work okay for me,  although chief does
not make the glass doors on the back see through..in any style..  .

Tim O'Donnell

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dennis Gavin
   To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 9:23 PM
   Subject: Re: [chief-users] muntin glass


   I wouldn't have asked if I hadn't tried that already.  Transparency seems to
   work okay
   with standard glass doors but not with the muntins doors. Am I missing
something
   or am I having
   a problem with my computer?  The gray glass doesn't even show the same color
   with the muntin
   glass. Now that I think of it I am also having a problem with a slab
countertop
   that is not taking
   the material assigned.  In reading many posts these last several weeks it
seems
   that there are a lot of
   problems with the program.  Not trying to "pass blame" just curious of there
is
   an issue that is causing
   all of these problems.   It seems a lot of people are having to reboot, shut
   down, etc.etc.  By the same
   token those with Win 2K seem to be having no problems. ( I have win '98)  I'd
   settle for a simple answer
   to my original question for now, does the glass in the muntins behave the same
   as regular glass?

   Dennis Gavin


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tom,

     "... anyone else have this problem?" Tom, exactly what problem
are you asking about that others might have?

DJP


--- In chief-users@y..., "Tom West" <WESTPLAN@b...> wrote:
> To all,
>
> Including ART if you read these messages (and you should). I am
sick of
> working 16 hours a day because I am using a tool that is making me
totally
> unproductive. I sent a fix it list To ART and did not receive any
response
> until I sent another question and requested acknowledgment of my
fix it
> list, then I received a question about one item and notification
that they
> are working on a patch.
>
> I have previously asked if there existed a list of known problems
and bugs,
> it seems to me that we all may be wasting heaps of time discussing
and
> rediscussing things that are allready, hopefully, being fixed. Why
cant we
> have a simple list to print out so we all know what is a bug and
being fixed
> so we can get on with other things instead of wasting a lot of time
trying
> and discussing different workarounds without success.
>
> Has anyone read the list I am talking about? it was posted 2 days
ago
> message No 22675. Everyone seems to be talking about wishes for
version 8
> but I just want to work now.
>
> I have spent the last two days trying to find a stupid simple hatch
pattern
> without success, I contacted ART Tech support and the answer was
that Chief
> cannot edit or create a pattern file. (how basic is this?) It seems
you need
> a program called Patternmaker which I have downloaded and have gone
through
> the tutorials and help files and generally futzed around, now I
have some
> patterns to make a nice dress but still cannot work out how to
create the
> hatch pattern I need, what a waste of time. And the dress doesnt
really
> match my tattoos anyway.
>
> Sorry to clog up the site but I had to get this off my chest having
recently
> recovered from stage 4 cancer and dont want to be back in hospital
with a
> stress attack. Chief 6 helped me with the cancer because I took a
laptop to
> hospital and kept working to keep my brain active. Chief 7 is
trying to
> destroy me.
>
> Sorry I had meant to keep this short.
>
> Tom West
> Sydney, Australia
>
> PS. Pretty pictures are great and should be part of the program but
none of
> my clients want to pay extra for the time involved so I cannot
afford the
> luxury of spending too much extra time, anyone else have this
problem?

Tom,

     I would guess that most of us wouldn't have the time to "wade"
through a list such as you have posted due to its length. That is
unfortunate and I am sorry you have had to experience feeling the
need to write it.
     Many of your concerns will be addressed with the forthcomming
patch and later ones as necessary. It does seem that the Metric
version has proved to be more problematic than the Imperial version.
     In Beta Testing and developement we did our best to spot "Legacy
Plan" issues and we did elimanate many during testing. It does seem
that several noisome ones were missed (ie. Meta-files, call-out line
weights and others as you know).
     I do wish I had something more useful to offer than my apologys
and sympathys. My own problems have been close to zero but I do
understand that I and others must operate and deal with different
types of Chief-products than you do. I can easily see that one who
draws differently might experience things that I do not because of
different demands on the hardware and software involved.
     In any case, you are "listened to" and you are important to us.

DJP

PS: Shorter posts are sure to get greater "Readings" and responces, I
am sure.


--- In chief-users@y..., "Tom West" <WESTPLAN@b...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This is a copy of a fix it list I have sent to ART, I have
discovered quite
> a few more items but am waiting to see what happens with these
first also I
> am wasting too much time on these non productive things and not
getting any
> designs finished.
>
> Regards,
> Tom West, Sydney
>
> Chief Architect Version 7
> Problems that need fixing:  (Metric version)
>
> I realise that some of these problems may be related to plans
commenced
> in version 6 but I have at least a dozen homes well past the
preliminary
> design stage so starting again in version 7 is not an option.
>
> 3D & 3D preferences
>
>     Full camera shots outside the building dont seem to be from the
height
> that the shot  was taken and seems to take forever to work out whats
> going on (its also just as hard to explain) inside shots are okay
but if you
> are in a room and moving the camera backwards as soon as you are out
> onto the deck the view drops to the next floor.
>
>     Auto remove 3D,  cannot figure out what it does except that
when it is
> unchecked it drastically slows down work in 2D.
>
>     Edit preferences - render,  states "No hardware accelleration"
I know
> that my computer is set on Full hardware accelleration, does this
mean
> chief 7 turns it off?
>
>     Cross section views, dimensioning size generates from plan
defaults but
> does not change when plan default is revised, dimension arrows do
not
> generate from plan and need to be reset for every cross section
required
> at least 5 per project and as you should allready know when cross
sections
> are sent to layout the dimensions have usually disappeared some
users
> have suggested not sending them to layout until last but when
setting up
> a set of working drawings a designer needs to send and adjust things
> several times before completing a project if work that has allready
been
> done is not automatically updating to layout then I am just wasting
time.
>
> Layout
>
>     Assertion failed, using Win98 at the office clicking ignore is
okay
> sometimes but at home using Win95 its a total crash, reboot and
scandisk
> everytime.
>
>     Text allready done using version 6 for standard title blocks
have
> suddenly increased in size meaning all standard sheets have to be
redone
> unless a patchwill fix it, half of the text items now have boxes
and cannot
> be
> group selected to remove them.
>
> Material Defaults
>
>     Brickwork default sizes are incorrect. A standard brick is 230
x 110 x
> 76 high and should also be to scale in isometric and render views.
>
>     Colours and Materials seem to be different depending on which
file you
> open.  EG: open Profile.pl1 (imperial) there are 24 paint colours
whereas
> profilem.pl1 (metric) has 40 colours
>
> Windows and Doors
>
>     Windows do not retain their default or edited size, some widths
I use
> are:  850, 1210, 1570, 1810 to suit brickwork standard openings, for
> some reason they sometimes change to 800, 1200, 1500, 1800.
> This problem existed in version 6.
>
> Reveal to Casings: Diagram of a window in the Manual shows it
correctly
> that is with the reveal inset from the frame inside but the program
sets the
> reveal from the frame outside.
>
>     Doors:  External and Internal,  Where is the door jamb?
> This has allways bothered me because the floor plans and cross
sections
> look silly without a jamb. How would you show a metal door jamb set
into
> a rendered brick wall?
>
> Terrain Modeller
>
>     Turning off the terrain on 3D and cross sections means I lose
brick and
> roof tile patterns which is a step backwards, also without the
computer
> generated ground lines I have to draw them manually again, what a
pain
> may as well stickthem on the drawing board.
> Why couldnt you just add another button?
>
>     Hide terrain intersected by building box is checked on all my
projects
> to clip building but terrain is still showing through in lower rooms
> including
> pl1.  It does work sometimes.
>
> Dimensioning
>
>     For architectural work long extension lines can be usefull for
> preliminary
> setup work after that you cant see the forest for the trees. Short
> extensions
> are useless and adding cad extension lines to a complicated drawing
is
> taking me days even using cad multiple copy.
> Dimension arrowheads can have their size defined in default
settings but
> for some reason is restricted by your wall thicknesses, for example
if
> your default arrow is 200 that is okay for walls more than 200
thick but
> any walls less than 200 thick will not have arrows.
>     The imperial dimension setup box in the Manual and the default
profile
> plan has 6 more button options than my metric version.
>
> Error messages
>
>
>     "Cannot find 3D symbol" is usually the standard toilet from
version 6
> are any more standard symbols a problem because when the error
> message appears trying to find the culprit is like looking for a
needle
> in a haystack.
>     "Wall is collinear" is impossible to find, just takes forever
and the
> program doesnt help with any clues. Is it possible to add a nice red
> circle like we had for a previous error message.
>
> Cad Lines and Polylines
>
>     Do not snap to Walls and other lines, when selecting a line
which is
> parallel to a wall the usual distance from the wall is missing so
for exact
> locating a dimension is required.
>
> Please do not interpret this as being a wish list for version 8,
version 7
> has only just been released and  has a lot of great features. I have
> used version 6 for at least a year and when that was released I dont
> remember anyone discussing a wish list for version 7.
>
> Thank You in anticipation,
>
> Tom West
> Sydney, Australia

DJP,

That was a little long winded. 8>?

--
John D. Lee
JDL Construction
General Building Contractor
Cottage Grove, OR  97424
541-942-1313

John,

     Tom or me? (or both?)

DJP
:o)

--- In chief-users@y..., "John D. Lee" <jdlco@g...> wrote:
> DJP,
>
> That was a little long winded. 8>?
>
> --
> John D. Lee
> JDL Construction
> General Building Contractor
> Cottage Grove, OR  97424
> 541-942-1313

Well I'll be Damned. I was thinking that installing muntins WAS giving me glass
doors.
I now see you have to both select muntins AND glass doors.
Thank you Dean!!!

Dennis Gavin

What kills me is that I think I did this when muntins first came out but forgot.

Not "All"sheizmers yet, just sometimers!





Dean wrote:

> Dennis,
>
> "does the glass in the muntins behave the same
> as regular glass?"
>
> The answer to your question is yes.
>
> Make sure your cabinet is defined for glass doors under the 'cabinet
> front' tab.
>
> Under the materials tab select cab glass and make sure the transparency
> setting is very close to totally transparent under the advanced
> settings.
>
> Dean
>
> Gavin wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't have asked if I hadn't tried that already.  Transparency
> > seems to
> > work okay
> > with standard glass doors but not with the muntins doors. Am I missing
> > something
> > or am I having
> > a problem with my computer?  The gray glass doesn't even show the same
> > color
> > with the muntin
> > glass. Now that I think of it I am also having a problem with a slab
> > countertop
> > that is not taking
> > the material assigned.  In reading many posts these last several weeks
> > it seems
> > that there are a lot of
> > problems with the program.  Not trying to "pass blame" just curious of
> > there is
> > an issue that is causing
> > all of these problems.   It seems a lot of people are having to
> > reboot, shut
> > down, etc.etc.  By the same
> > token those with Win 2K seem to be having no problems. ( I have win
> > '98)  I'd
> > settle for a simple answer
> > to my original question for now, does the glass in the muntins behave
> > the same
> > as regular glass?
> >
> > Dennis Gavin
> >
>
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The only thing that I can think of as to why ART doesn't post a bug
list publicly is that the completion might pick up on it and say this
that and the other thing about an object orientated program.
  I know how you feel; I posted a message about Unselectable Stairs
and got one response. I sent in a bug report to Art and received an e-
mail back saying that it was plan specific, but when it happens on 3
different machines and different plans, then it can't be plan
specific can it? Maybe a suggestion to Art is to send out a mailing
of known bugs to registered users, and for them to keep hush hush
about it and maybe list some work around for said bugs so no hair is
lost in the process or red marks on the forehead.

my 2cents

Peter Bowden
www.houseplansdrawn.com

David,

I was referring to you ;>).  Don't have a lot of time, I'm real busy now
trying to get that smiley thing vertical for Jim.

--
John D. Lee
JDL Construction
General Building Contractor
Cottage Grove, OR  97424
541-942-1313

Peter,
      If I haven't had a particular problem, I rarely make a post that
I haven't had or seen a complained-about problem, unless the poster
asks for such data. For instance, I haven't experienced "Unselectable
Stairs" and thus made no post.

DJP


--- In chief-users@y..., pbowden@h... wrote:
> The only thing that I can think of as to why ART doesn't post a bug
> list publicly is that the completion might pick up on it and say
this
> that and the other thing about an object orientated program.
>  I know how you feel; I posted a message about Unselectable Stairs
> and got one response. I sent in a bug report to Art and received an
e-
> mail back saying that it was plan specific, but when it happens on
3
> different machines and different plans, then it can't be plan
> specific can it? Maybe a suggestion to Art is to send out a mailing
> of known bugs to registered users, and for them to keep hush hush
> about it and maybe list some work around for said bugs so no hair
is
> lost in the process or red marks on the forehead.
>
> my 2cents
>
> Peter Bowden
> www.houseplansdrawn.com