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#134418 From: "artemistroy" <artemispub@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:50 am
Subject: Re: Are Whites really racists?
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There were no Cyclon-B residues on the walls and the openings for the alleged
pellets were added. You need to access updated research from new material
released from archives previously unavailable.

Artemis

--- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Karl Stonjek"
<stonjek@...> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: artemistroy
> To: evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Are Whites really racists?
>
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> The six female Auschwitz survivors PBS program showed very different photos of
these women when girls. They were dressed very nicely, they had all their hair.
were smiling and laughing. They stated that the Russian liberators ate what
little food was left in the camps.
>
> I've seen photos of the "shower rooms" where some 2,000 people at a time were
supposed to have been gassed. These buildings were so flimsy, that even twenty
people could have broken out of them. But instead each group of 2,000 go in like
sheep and wait for pellets to be dropped on them?
>
> Why bother with a shower, tattoos, and head shaving if you're going to kill
them anyway? Of course, I forgot, the Nazis were so stupid that it is entirely
rational that they would do this.
>
> Oh, and let's not forget the German civilian death march, as well as the
millions that died after the war.
>
> Artemis
>
>
>
> RKS:
> Auschwitz gas chambers are still standing 70 years on and do not look in any
danger of collapsing.  They have brick walls more than 18" thick and heavy metal
doors.  A little robust for a shower?  There were shower heads in the 'showers',
but the plumbing was not collected.  The pellets were placed into a cage from
the roof, not onto the vitims.
>
> You seem to have a very poor understanding of the agreed facts and evidence
still in existance.
>
>
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/auschwitzscrapbook/tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08.htm\
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#134419 From: "michaelragland69" <michaelragland69@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Are Whites really racists?
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--- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "artemistroy" <artemispub@...>
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> I don't understand how the Red Cross could have missed thousands of bodies
laying about, the very same that we have seen in the shocking photos. How
quickly could so many corpses be disposed of so that they would not be detected?
Wouldn't there be a terrific stench from so many rotting corpses due to the
limited crematorium equipment?
>
> Why would German headquarters be the least bit concerned that the Red Cross
was having difficulty getting donated supplies into the camps because of the
Allied blockade? If all the remaining inmates were slated for extermination, why
should the Nazis care if they had food and medicine?
>
> The claims made as to what the Nazis did in the camps is humanly and
technically IMPOSSIBLE.
>
> Artemis
>
> --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "michaelragland69"
<michaelragland69@> wrote:
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> > The Red Cross was allowed to see what the Nazis wanted them to see. The Red
Cross was not allowed to witness the extermination facilities at Auschwitz i.e.
the gassing chambers and the ovens.
> >
> > Michael Ragland
> >
> <snip>
>


You know people complained about the smell coming from Jeffery Dahmer's place
but nobody ever called the health department. Dahmer told some tenants that he
had rotten meat. I'm not aware of the Nazis leaving thousands of dead bodies
laying around except near the ehd of the war when it was obvious Germany had
lost and they fled to escape prosecution. The Germans at the death camps were
informed ahead of time when the Red Cross was visiting and they would "stage"
the camp as humanely as possible. It was a sham and I believe the Red Cross has
apologized for its behavior during the war

From the Newyork Times

World News Briefs; Red Cross Admits Failing To Condemn Holocaust
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The Red Cross handed over 60,000 World War II-era documents to an Israeli
archive today and admitted a ''moral failure'' in not having spoken out against
the Nazi genocide that killed six million Jews.

The Red Cross ''admits -- yes -- that it has kept silent with regard to the
Holocaust, and I would say that this is the heart of the moral failure,'' said
George Willemin, archive director for the Geneva-based International Committee
of the Red Cross.

The statement follows an apology by the Roman Catholic Church in France last
week on its silence over French collaboration with the Holocaust.

The documents, on 30 reels of microfilm, were given to Yad Vashem, Israel's
Holocaust memorial. They are also being given to the Holocaust Museum in
Washington and the Jewish Documentation Center in Paris.

#134420 From: devilboy6x9@...
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:04 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Ma
exquisitecor...
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0507/Title-IX-case-Boy-banned-as-too-good-for-girls-field-hockey-team
The attorney for a 13-year-old Long Island boy who was kicked off his high school’s girls’ field hockey team for being too dominant says his client will most likely be reinstated. He's smaller than most of the girls...!!

http://www.metro.co.uk/showbiz/15995-tennis-pay-gap-unfair
The arguments for men earning more are based around the fact they play five sets instead of three.


Exquisite Corpse 77
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind~ L Pasteur

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From: Nancy <Empress9@...>
Subject: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Ma
To: "evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com" <evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 10:00 AM

 

Mark H "Why don't we ask female athletes if they want to get out of "separate but
equal" sports
e.g. women's basketball, women's wrestling, women's ...."

I'm a female athlete and all I want is reasonable competition levels. I enjoy co-Ed teams, have held my own on an otherwise all male league, but find their are plenty of all- female teams against which there would be no competition and no fun for either.

The issue is, although humans can be separated into various classifications (gender, race, height, age, language,etc) we don't always want to be unilaterally categorized by any one of them. At least I don't.

Ps. I'm sure my over-60 women's soccer team could take on the men's over-80 team ;-)

Nancy


#134421 From: "artemistroy" <artemispub@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:15 am
Subject: Re: Are Whites really racists?
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I watched the full two-hour documentary and there were no accusations or
references to who did what. They want a new investigation opened up to STOP the
conspiracy theories that will continue until this matter is settled. Why not
watch the film before you make up your mind?

Artemis

--- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "michaelragland69"
<michaelragland69@...> wrote:
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>
> --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "artemistroy" <artemispub@>
wrote:
> >
> > There's a holocaust survivors group in my area whose meetings I can attend
at any time. The first question I would ask, depending on the camp in which each
individual was detained, is if they personally witnessed anyone enter a shower
room and not come out alive. If any Jew or other detainee personally
manufactured shrunken heads and lampshades made of human skin, and that's just
for starters. I recently watched a PBS documentary about six women who were at
Auschwitz. I was especially keen to know if any of these women witnessed several
thousand people, each day, enter shower rooms and not come out alive. It takes
at least 1-2 hours to cremate a corpse using the most modern equipment available
today; yet, with only 13 ovens, several thousand corpses were cremated each day.
What were the Nazis thinking? That they could dispose of MILLIONS of Jews and
other inmates with such inefficient methods? They had to be the stupidest people
in the world! They did not, however, have a treatment for typhus which the
Americans had, which is why so many inmates succumbed from that disease. And
then add the Allied blockade of food and medicine, which was responsible for
many, many more deaths.
> >
> > You cannot refute the revisionists until you access their work. When you can
do that, then you can bring up this topic again. If you think it's hooey, then
state the reasons why you think so. Then you should explain why Holocaust
revisionist historians are the ONLY historians who have ever been tried and
imprisoned for revising history.
> >
> > Artemis
> >
> <snip>
>
> I know Europeans came to America and committed genocide against the Native
Americans. They shot and killed them. They gave them smallpox ridden blankets,
etc. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how the Europeans didn't
commit genocide against Native Americans. I know that 800,000 Tutsi were
murdered by the Hutu in Rwanda. I don't need to read a revisionist account of
how this didn't happen. I know Cambodians killed at least a million of their own
countrymen. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how the Cambodians
didn't commit genocide. I know that man has landed on the moon. I don't need to
read a revisionist account of how man didn't land on the moon. I know
approximately 18 Saudi hijackers crashed almost FULLY FUELED airplanes into the
World Trade Center Towers. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how our
government was behind the attack.
>
> Michael Ragland
>

#134422 From: james kohl <jvkohl@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:23 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Many "
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Who is Linda Brown? What is she doing in this thread on " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Many "? Is she one of the many?

James V. Kohl
Medical laboratory scientist

--- On Sun, 6/17/12, Winyan <winyan7@...> wrote:
Artemis

Asking this question is the equivalent of asking who Linda Brown is. 

'pini







On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 AM, "artemistroy" <artemispub@...> wrote:

 

Pini, who's the Little Rock (Ark.) Nine? The 1950s was a great time to live in America, alas, never to return.

Artemis

--- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, Winyan <winyan7@...> wrote:
>
> Totally agree, Sonny.
>
> Living in the 1950's is no way to spend a life.
>
> 'pini
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>
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#134423 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:09 am
Subject: News: Lariats: How RNA splicing decisions are made
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Lariats: How RNA splicing decisions are made

June 17th, 2012 in Biology / Cell & Microbiology

Lariats are discarded byproducts of RNA splicing, the process by which genetic instructions for making proteins are assembled. A new study has found hundreds more lariats than ever before, yielding new information about how splicing occurs and how it can lead to disease.

Tiny, transient loops of genetic material, detected and studied by the hundreds for the first time at Brown University, are providing new insights into how the body transcribes DNA and splices (or missplices) those transcripts into the instructions needed for making proteins.

The lasso-shaped genetic snippets they are called lariats that the Brown team reports studying in the June 17 edition of Nature Structural & Molecular Biology are byproducts of gene transcription. Until now scientists had found fewer than 100 lariats, mostly by poring over very small selections of introns, which are sections of genetic code that do not directly code for proteins, but contain important signals that direct the way protein-coding regions are assembled. In the new study, Brown biologists report that they found more than 800 lariats in a publicly available set of billions of RNA reads derived from human tissues.

"We used modern genomic methods, deep sequencers, to detect these rare intermediates of splicing," said William Fairbrother, associate professor of biology and senior author of the study. "It's the first ever report of these things being discovered at a genome scale in living cells, and it tells us a lot about this step of gene processing."

That specific step is known as RNA splicing. Like film editors splicing together movie scenes, enzymes cut away the introns to assemble exons that instruct a cell's ribosome to make proteins. The body often has a choice of ways and places to make those cuts. Most of what is known about splicing has come from studying these spliced instructions, said Allison Taggart, a graduate student who is lead author of the study. What's been missing is the data hidden in the lariats, which fall apart shortly after being spliced out, but turn out to predict the body's splicing choices.

Modeling splicing

The key information uncovered in the study, Taggart said, is the location of so-called "branchpoints" on the lariats. Physically, the branchpoint is where the lariat closes on itself to form a loop during the first step of splicing, but its position and proximity to possible splice sites, the researchers learned, reliably relate to where splicing will occur.

After studying the sites of these branchpoints and their relationship to splice sites, the researchers created an algorithmic model that could predict splice sites 95.6 percent of the time. The value of the model is not in identifying splice sites those are already well known, Fairbrother said. Instead, the model's accuracy shows that, with the new data from the lariats, scientists have gained a more general understanding of how the body chooses among alternative splicing sites.

"What it does tell us is sets of rules defining the relationship between branchpoints and the chosen splice sites, which gives clues about how the splicing machinery makes decisions," Taggart said. "Certain branchpoint locations can enforce specific splicing isoforms."

Connections to disease

In addition to ferreting out the mechanisms of alternative splicing, the team also studied the connection between branchpoints and disease. They looked through the Human Gene Mutation Database for disease-causing mutations found in introns and compared their newly found branchpoint sequences to those mutations. They found that many relate specifically to branchpoints.

"We saw a sequence motif that looked exactly like a branchpoint sequence motif," she said. "What this tells us is that these mutations are forming at branchpoints and are leading to disease, presumably through causing aberrant splicing by interfering with lariat formation."

In other words, Fairbrother said, it could well be that a consequence of mutations in branchpoints could be disease.

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"Lariats: How RNA splicing decisions are made." June 17th, 2012. http://phys.org/news/2012-06-lariats-rna-splicing-decisions.html

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#134424 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:47 am
Subject: News: The risk of carrying a cup of coffee
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The risk of carrying a cup of coffee

June 15th, 2012 in Neuroscience
The risk of carrying a cup of coffeeProfessor Dagmar Sternad and postdoctoral researcher C.J. Hasson show that we subconsciously adjust our "safety margin" when we move a dynamic object like a cup of coffee based on the amount of variability in the situation. Credit: John Guillemin

Object manipulation or tool use is almost a uniquely human trait, said Dagmar Sternad, director of Northeastern's Action Lab, a research group interested in movement coordination. "Not only does it require certain cognitive abilities but also distinct motor abilities."

Simply moving one's own body, for instance by directing a hand toward a coffee cup, requires the organization of various physiological systems including the central and peripheral nervous systems and the musculoskeletal system.

Once the hand grasps and picks up the cup, the questions become even more complicated. What if the cup is filled with liquid? At this point, the complexity of the control problem balloons - the presence of the liquid introduces nonlinear fluid dynamics with the risk of a spill because of the inherent variability in one's movement.

Sternad, a professor of , biology, electrical and computer engineering and physics and postdoctoral researcher C.J. Hasson are interested in how we adapt our movement strategies when interacting with dynamic objects in the environment.

In a recent paper published in the Journal of Neurophysiology, Hasson and Sternad explored the question by looking at the everyday task of manipulating a cup of coffee. They show that how we adapt our movement strategies is directly related to the amount of variability and reliability in our surroundings and ourselves.

"Because we're humans and not machines, we're noisy and variable," said Hasson. "We can't expect that a movement will unfold exactly as we planned it."

For the study, 18 healthy participants visited the Action Lab to play a video game, wherein they attempted to move a virtual cup filled with virtual liquid across a large video screen. Instead of a normal video-​​game controller, subjects moved the virtual cup by grasping a manipulandum - a large robotic arm. Similar to the real-​​life scenario, the robot simulated the forces one would feel from the weight of the object and the sloshing of the liquid in the cup.

They asked participants to move the cup across the screen within a comfortable time of two seconds, a task for which there is an infinite number of possibilities. You could move fast for one second and slow for one second, slow for a half second and then fast for one and a half seconds. The team hypothesized that participants would naturally adapt a safe movement strategy with practice - and they did.

But the most intriguing result, said Hasson, was that the size of each participant's safety margin -or how close they let the liquid get to the edge of the cup - could be predicted by how variable they were in their movements. Those with more variability tended to adapt a "safer" strategy with a larger safety margin.

"If you have a large safety margin and I move with a small margin, the question is, 'Why am I more risky than you?'" Hasson said. "Well, you may find that I am much more consistent in my movements, so I don't need a big safety margin. If you're more variable, you need a larger safety margin."

The results have implications in assessing elderly patients and patients of motor disorders such as cerebral palsy. "If variability determines the movements that you do, maybe that's an intervention point," said Sternad.

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"The risk of carrying a cup of coffee." June 15th, 2012. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-06-cup-coffee.html

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#134425 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:41 am
Subject: News: Bones in Bulgaria may be of John the Baptist: study
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Bones in Bulgaria may be of John the Baptist: study

June 15th, 2012 in Other Sciences / Archaeology & Fossils
An alabaster sculpture of John the Baptist is pictured in FranceAn alabaster sculpture of John the Baptist is pictured in France. Scientists have found new evidence they say supports the theory that a knuckle bone and other human remains found under a church floor in Bulgaria may be of John the Baptist.

Scientists have found new evidence they say supports the theory that a knuckle bone and other human remains found under a church floor in Bulgaria may be of John the Baptist.

The relics found in a small marble sarcophagus two years ago on a Bulgarian island called Sveti Ivan, which translates as Saint John, also included a human tooth, part of a skull and three animal bones.

A research team from Oxford University dated the right-handed knuckle bone to the first century AD, when John is believed to have lived until his beheading ordered by king Herod, the university said in a statement.

And scientists from the University of Copenhagen analysed the DNA of the bones, finding they came from a single individual, probably a man, from a family in the modern-day Middle East, where John would have lived.

While these findings do not definitively prove anything, they also don't refute the theory first proffered by the Bulgarian archaeologists who found the remains while excavating under an ancient church on the island.

Many sites around the world claim to hold relics of the saint, including the Grand Mosque in Damascus which says it has his head.

The right hand with which the prophet allegedly baptised Jesus in the River Jordan is also claimed to be held by several entities, including a Serbian Orthodox monastery in Montenegro.

"The result from the metacarpal hand bone is clearly consistent with someone who lived in the early first century AD," Oxford University professor Tom Higham said of the new study.

"Whether that person is John the Baptist is a question that we cannot yet definitely answer and probably never will."

Bulgarian archaeologists had found a small box made of hardened volcanic ash close to the sarcophagus.

The box bore inscriptions in ancient Greek that referred to John the Baptist and the date that Christians celebrate his birth, June 24.

The findings of another Oxford researcher, using historical documents, suggest that the monastery of Sveti Ivan may have received a portion of John the Baptist's relics in the fifth or early sixth centuries.

The findings are to be presented in a documentary to be aired on The National Geographic channel in Britain on Sunday.

(c) 2012 AFP

"Bones in Bulgaria may be of John the Baptist: study." June 15th, 2012. http://phys.org/news/2012-06-bones-bulgaria-john-baptist.html

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#134426 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:39 am
Subject: News: Persistence is learned from fathers, study shows
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Persistence is learned from fathers, study shows

June 15th, 2012 in Psychology & Psychiatry

When the going gets tough, the tough ought to thank their fathers.

New research from Brigham Young University shows that dads are in a unique position to help their adolescent children develop persistence.

BYU professors Laura Padilla-Walker and Randal Day arrived at these findings after following 325 families over several years. And over time, the persistence gained through fathers lead to higher engagement in school and lower rates of delinquency.

"In our research we ask 'Can your child stick with a task? Can they finish a project? Can they make a goal and complete it?'" Day said. "Learning to stick with it sets a foundation for kids to flourish and to cope with the stress and pressures of life."

The scholars from BYU's School of Family Life report their findings June 15 in the Journal of Early Adolescence.

"There are relatively few studies that highlight the unique role of fathers," Padilla-Walker said. "This research also helps to establish that traits such as persistence which can be taught are key to a child's life success."

The key is for dads to practice what's called "authoritative" parenting not to be confused with authoritarian. Here are the three basic ingredients:

  • Children feel warmth and love from their father
  • Accountability and the reasons behind rules are emphasized
  • Children are granted an appropriate level of autonomy
About 52 percent of the dads in the study exhibited above-average levels of authoritative parenting. Over time, their kids were significantly more likely to develop persistence, which lead to better outcomes in school and lower levels of delinquency.

This particular study examined 11-14 year olds residing in two-parent homes. Yet the study authors suggest that single parents still may play a role in teaching the benefits of persistence, which is an avenue of future research.

"Fathers should continue to try and be involved in their children's lives and engage in high quality interactions, even if the quantity of those interactions might be lower than is desirable," Padilla-Walker said.

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"Persistence is learned from fathers, study shows." June 15th, 2012. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-06-persistence-fathers.html

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#134427 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:18 am
Subject: News: Behavioral responses to a changing world
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Behavioral responses to a changing world

June 15th, 2012 in Biology / Ecology
Male beetles are mating with beer bottles. Credit: University of Toronto Mississauga

(Phys.org) -- Male beetles in Western Australia are mating with beer bottles in response to environmental change caused by human activity. A new book examines why, and the impacts on biodiversity.

Oxford University Press today announced the launch of Behavioral Responses to a Changing World: Mechanisms and Consequences by Dr. Bob Wong, of Monash University, and Ulrika Candolin from The University of Helsinki, Finland.

Drawing on international experts from across the globe, it is the first book of its kind devoted to understanding animal behavioral responses to environmental change. Behavioral Responses emphasises the vital links between environmental change, behavior and population dynamics which have been rarely examined in the context of one another.

Co-editor Dr. Bob Wong, Senior Lecturer at Monash Universitys School of Biological Sciences and an expert in behavioural and evolutionary ecology, said how animals respond to changed conditions was a growing area of research interest.

Due to human activities, almost all creatures live in environments that have been altered to some degree. The ability to behave accordingly under new conditions is crucial for survival, Dr. Wong said.

Environmental change caused by human activity is considered the greatest single threat to global biodiversity. Scientists are only now beginning to appreciate the important ecological and evolutionary implications of altered behaviours due to environmental change."

Dr. Wong said the initial response of many animals to human-induced environmental change is often behavioral, which in turn affects species interactions, population viability, evolution, and ultimately, biodiversity.

Some of these behaviors can be beneficial and buy more time for populations and species to genetically adapt to altered conditions. Some species might even thrive in urban environments. But behaviors can also be maladaptive, Dr. Wong said.

Male beetles, for example, are mating with beer bottles because they resemble female beetles and female fish in Mexico, living in polluted streams, are mating with male fish of the wrong species.

The comprehensive text discusses impacts on both the mechanisms underlying behavioral processes, as well as the longer-term ecological and evolutionary consequences. Topics as diverse as endocrine disruption, learning, reproduction, migration, species interactions and evolutionary rescue are canvassed.

Dr. Wong will officially present Behavioural Responses to a Changing World at a post-congress symposia of the 14th International Behavioral Ecology Congress on 18 August in Sweden.

Provided by Monash University

"Behavioral responses to a changing world." June 15th, 2012. http://phys.org/news/2012-06-behavioral-responses-world.html

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#134428 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:37 am
Subject: News: Manipulation of a specific neural circuit buried in complicated brain networks in primates
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Manipulation of a specific neural circuit buried in complicated brain networks in primates

June 17th, 2012 in Neuroscience

A collaborative research team led by Professor Tadashi ISA from The National Institute for Physiological Sciences, The National Institutes of Natural Sciences and Fukushima Medical University and Kyoto University, developed a "double viral vector transfection technique" which can deliver genes to a specific neural circuit by combining two new kinds of gene transfer vectors. With this method, they found that "indirect pathways", which were suspected to have been left behind when the direct connection from the brain to motor neurons (which control muscles) was established in the course of evolution, actually plays an important role in the highly developed dexterous hand movements. This study was supported by the Strategic Research Program for Brain Sciences by the MEXT of Japan. This research result will be published in Nature (June 17th, advance online publication).

It is said that the higher primates including human beings accomplished explosive evolution by having acquired the ability to move hands skillfully. It has been thought that this ability to move individual fingers is a result of the evolution of the direct connection from the cerebrocortical motor area to motor neurons of the spinal cord which control the muscles. On the other hand, in lower animals with clumsy hands, such as cats or rats, the cortical motor area is connected to the motor neurons, only through interneurons of the spinal cord. Such "indirect pathway"remains in us, primates, without us fully understanding its functions. Is this "phylogenetically old circuit" still in operation? Or maybe suppressed since it is obstructive? The conclusion was not attached to this argument.

The collaborative research team led by Professor Tadashi ISA, Project Assistant Professor Masaharu KINOSHITA from The National Institute for Physiological Sciences, The National Institutes of Natural Sciences and Fukushima Medical University and Kyoto University developed "the double viral vector transfection technique"which can deliver genes to a specific neural circuit by combining two new kinds of gene transfer vectors.

With this method, they succeeded in the selective and reversible suppression of the propriospinal neurons (spinal interneurons mediating the indirect connection from cortical motor area to spinal motor neurons)

The results revealed that "indirect pathways" play an important role in dexterous hand movements and finally a longtime debate has come to a close.

The key component of this discovery was"the double viral vector transfection technique"in which one vector is retrogradely transported from the terminal zone back to the neuronal cell bodies and the other is transfected at the location of their cell bodies. The expression of the target gene is regulated only in the cells with double transfection by the two vectors. Using this technique, they succeeded in the suppression of the propriospinal neuron selectively and reversibly.

Such an operation was possible in mice in which the inheritable genetic manipulation of germline cells were possible, but impossible in primates until now.

Using this method, further development of gene therapy targeted to a specific neural circuit can be expected.

Professor Tadashi ISA says "this newly developed double viral vector transfection technique can be applied to the gene therapy of the human central nervous system, as we are the same higher primates.

And this is the discovery which reverses the general idea that the spinal cord is only a reflex pathway, but also plays a pivotal role in integrating the complex neural signals which enable dexterous movements."

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"Manipulation of a specific neural circuit buried in complicated brain networks in primates." June 17th, 2012. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-06-specific-neural-circuit-complicated-brain.html

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#134429 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:44 am
Subject: News: More to facial perception than meets the eye
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More to facial perception than meets the eye

June 15th, 2012 in Psychology & Psychiatry

People make complex judgements about a person from looking at their face that are based on a range of factors beyond simply their race and gender, according to findings of new research funded by the Economic and Social Research Council (ESRC).

The findings question a long-held belief that people immediately put a person they meet into a limited number of social categories such as: female or male; Asian, Black, Latino or White; and young or old.

Dr Kimberly Quinn at the University of Birmingham found that people 'see' faces in a multiple of ways. This could have wider importance in understanding stereotyping and discrimination because it has implications on whether and how people categorise others.

Categorisation is not done purely on the physical features of the face in front of us, but depends on other information as well, including whether the person is already known and whether the person is believed to share other important identities with us.

"How we perceive faces is not just a reflection of what's in those faces," Dr Quinn said. "We are not objective; we bring our current goals and past knowledge to every new encounter. And this happens really quickly - within a couple of hundred milliseconds of seeing the face."

Dr Quinn and her colleagues explored social categories such as sex, race and age; physical attributes such as attractiveness; personality traits such as trustworthiness; and emotional states such as anger, sadness and happiness.

She found that although social categories are used to gather information on faces, these can be easily undermined. This research found that we reject simple stereotypes when something about the situation alerts us to the fact the stereotype does not tell the whole story. If we take, for example, a racial group and the corresponding stereotype of members of that group as unintelligent, seeing a person in that group playing an intellectual game such as chess would tell us to cancel out the stereotype.

In order to investigate the causes, mechanisms, and results of social categorisation, Dr Quinn used techniques from cognitive psychology and neuroscience to investigate how people process faces. The research was designed to provide insight into when and why people categorise others according to social group membership.

Their findings differ from previous research that adopted a 'dual process' approach and assumed people initially categorised faces based on factors such as gender, race or age before determining whether to stereotype them or to see them as unique individuals.

Dr Quinn's findings were more consistent with a single process that initially focuses on 'coarse' information that is easy to detect, and then immediately starts to include more fine-grained processing as time elapses. This model allows for either categorisation or more individuated processing to emerge, and does not assume that categorisation always comes before recognising unique identities thereby allowing for more diverse outcomes than previously thought.

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#134430 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:57 am
Subject: News: Bugs have key role in farming approach to storing CO2 emissions
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Bugs have key role in farming approach to storing CO2 emissions

June 15th, 2012 in Space & Earth / Environment

Tiny microbes are at the heart of a novel agricultural technique to manage harmful greenhouse gas emissions.

Scientists have discovered how microbes can be used to turn carbon dioxide emissions into soil-enriching limestone, with the help of a type of tree that thrives in tropical areas, such as West Africa.

Researchers have found that when the Iroko tree is grown in dry, acidic soil and treated with a combination of natural fungus and bacteria, not only does the tree flourish, it also produces the mineral limestone in the soil around its roots.

The Iroko tree makes a mineral by combining calcium from the earth with CO2 from the atmosphere. The bacteria then create the conditions under which this mineral turns into limestone. The discovery offers a novel way to lock carbon into the soil, keeping it out of the atmosphere.

In addition to storing carbon in the trees' leaves and in the form of limestone, the mineral in the soil makes it more suitable for agriculture.

The discovery could lead to reforestation projects in tropical countries, and help reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the developing world. It has already been used in West Africa and is being tested in Bolivia, Haiti and India.

The findings were made in a three-year project involving researchers from the Universities of Edinburgh, Granada, Lausanne and Neuchatel, Delft University of Technology, and commercial partner Biomim-Greenloop. The project examined several microbiological methods for locking up CO2 as limestone, and the Iroko-bacteria pathway showed best results. Work was funded by the European Commission under the Future & Emerging Technologies (FET) scheme.

Dr Bryne Ngwenya of the University of Edinburgh's School of GeoSciences, who led the consortium, said: "By taking advantage of this natural limestone-producing process, we have a low-tech, safe, readily employed and easily maintained way to lock carbon out of the atmosphere, while enriching farming conditions in tropical countries."

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#134431 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:52 am
Subject: News: First study of its kind finds rapid declines in worldwide physical activity
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First study of its kind finds rapid declines in worldwide physical activity

June 15th, 2012 in Overweight and Obesity

(Medical Xpress) -- A new study by University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill researchers finds a global decline in activity levels and predicts a continuing rise in inactivity in countries around the world.  When viewed in the context of physical activity levels throughout human evolution, the global decline in physical activity in just the past few decades is particularly abrupt. 

The study, conducted by Barry Popkin, Ph.D., W.R. Kenan Jr. Distinguished Professor of nutrition, and Shu Wen Ng, Ph.D., research assistant professor of nutrition, both at UNCs Gillings School of Global Public Health, used extensive data from the 1960s onward to determine how people around the world spend their time and how they move in the course of their daily lives. The resulting publication, Time use and physical activity: a shift away from movement across the globe, appeared online in Obesity Reviews Early View Section today and will be published in the August issue (Obesity Reviews Volume 13 Issue 8 August 2012). Obesity Reviews is an official journal of the International Association for the Study of Obesity.

We have understood for some time that children and adults in the United States are increasingly spending more time in front of televisions and in other sedentary activities such as playing computer games, using computers and texting on cell phones, said Ng, who is the studys senior author. This study shows that the same shifts have also occurred in China, India, Brazil and the United Kingdom. In fact, we find adults in the U.K. are more sedentary than those in the U.S.

Popkin noted that the introduction of home technology that includes rice cookers, refrigerators, stoves, washing machines and microwaves is global, reducing the time traditionally spent producing food and completing housework. Similar technological changes have led to less walking, more use of cars and buses, and in general, have lowered activity spent in travel across the world.

Historically, Ng said, adults have been most active in their jobs. Now, she says, whether you live in China, India or the U.S., computers and many forms of automation remove physical exertion at work. Changes in the types of work people do have greatly reduced our overall activity levels over the past half-century.

The study uses repeated nationally representative studies on time-use from the United States, the United Kingdom and China, along with more limited nationally representative time allocation data from Brazil and India, to document very rapid declines in physical activity. This is particularly true in China and Brazil, the countries with the two highest absolute and relative rates of decline in total physical activity and some of the higher increases in sedentary time.

For these two countries, declines in activity were driven largely by reductions in movement at work, at home, and to a lesser degree, in travel or transportation. This is not surprising given that in the past few decades, the Chinese and Brazilians have been shifting away from agriculture into manufacturing, service and other sectors, increasing use of machines and labor-saving technology in the workplace, and acquiring greater access to home technologies (e.g., electrification, piped water, appliances), as well as motorized vehicles.

The study makes projections, given continuation of the current trends, for the levels of activity in the five countries in 2020 and 2030. The forecasts are bleak. Using a physiological measure called metabolic equivalent of task (MET), which describes the amount of energy spent in accomplishing a task, the study determined that by 2020, the average American adult will expend about 190 MET hours per week. In comparison, a person who slept 24 hours in a day would expend 151 MET hours per week, and an active adult who did vigorous activity for 30 minutes to an hour every day, but otherwise had a desk job, would expend between 240 and 265 MET-hours per week.

People in Britain will reach the 190 MET hours level by 2030. Those in China and Brazil will continue on a steeper downward trend, reaching the U.S. and U.K. physical activity levels by 2030. The situation in India appears less severe, but the average of the levels masks the stark socioeconomic dichotomy likely to continue in India, with wealthier Indians leading lifestyles similar to those of the British.

These changes will have significant implications for health outcomes, health-care costs, and overall functional well-being of societies around the world. In addition, it is important to note that how we move has a great deal to do with global health, human development and well-being Physically active children learn better, active adults live longer and are more functional and active women are less prone to osteoporosis and bone fractures. By focusing on these five countries, which represent more than 3 billion individuals (nearly 50 percent of the worlds population), this study presents what can be expected if no action is taken to curb rapid declines in physical activity and increases in sedentary behavior.

The study authors call for global initiatives and advocacy efforts in all regions of the world to build momentum to study and effectively intervene in all domains of movement.   Given the material impact that physical activity has on health, human development and national well-being, Popkin noted one of the most important activities for governments to undertake going forward is to start to measure population-wide physical activity levels.  In particular, long-term investments to create a publicly accessible, worldwide physical activity standard would be a significant advancement for the field.         

Our hope is that this multicountry study will spur global action to reduce sedentary behavior and increase activity across multiple domains of daily activity, Ng said. Being active throughout our daily lives and across the life cycle is important in terms of human development, health outcomes and economic productivity.

More information: http://dx.doi.org/ 2011.00982.x

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#134432 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:36 am
Subject: News: Researchers solve Roman Empire historical mystery
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Researchers solve Roman Empire historical mystery

June 15th, 2012 in Other Sciences / Archaeology & Fossils
Researchers solve historical mystery Palmyras main street was one of the longest and most monumental in the eastern Roman Empire. Credit: J.C. Meyer

In ancient Roman times A.D., Palmyra was the most important point along the trade route linking the east and west, reaching a population of 100 000 inhabitants. But its history has always been shrouded in mystery: What was a city that size doing in the middle of the desert? How could so many people live in such an inhospitable place nearly 2 000 years ago? Where did their food come from? And why would such an important trade route pass directly through the desert?

Norwegian researchers collaborated with Syrian colleagues for four years to find answers.

These findings provide a wealth of new insight into Palmyras history, says project manager Jrgen Christian Meyer, a professor at the University of Bergen. The project has received funding of over NOK 9 million from the Research Council of Norways comprehensive funding scheme for independent basic research projects (FRIPRO).

New research using modern archaeological methods

The Bergen-based archaeologists approached the problem from a novel angle instead of examining the city itself, they studied an enormous expanse of land just to the north. Along with their Syrian colleagues from the Palmyra Museum and aided by satellite photos, they catalogued a large number of ancient remains visible on the Earths surface.

In this way, explains Professor Meyer, we were able to form a more complete picture of what occurred within the larger area.

The team detected a number of forgotten villages from ancient Roman times. But what finally solved the riddle of Palmyra was the discovery of the water reservoirs these villages had utilized.

Researchers solve historical mystery The archaeologists located this and other reservoirs used nearly 2 000 years ago.

Not a desert

Professor Meyer and his colleagues came to realise that what they were studying was not a desert, but rather an arid steppe, with underground grass roots that keep rain from sinking into the soil. Rainwater collects in intermittent creeks and rivers called wadi by the Arabs.

The archaeologists gathered evidence that residents of ancient Palmyra and the nearby villages collected the rainwater using dams and cisterns. This gave the surrounding villages water for crops and enabled them to provide the city with food; the collection system ensured a stable supply of agricultural products and averted catastrophe during droughts.

Local farmers also cooperated with Bedouin tribes, who drove their flocks of sheep and goats into the area to graze during the hot season, fertilising the farmers fields in the process.

Safe trade route

Palmyras location also had a political foundation. Important east-west trade routes, including along the Euphrates River to the north, were not under the control of the Romans to the west or the Persians to the east. Local lords and chieftains demanded high fees for passage.

This practice of extortion translated into a tremendous opportunity for the Palmyrians; they joined forces with the Bedouins to provide security, beasts of burden and guides through the desert.

Tradesmen from Palmyra made the most of the citys unique location to build up a comprehensive trade network, says the professor. This explains much of the citys prosperity.

Arable land in this time of need

The solution to the mystery of Palmyra can also teach us something today. As the world seeks arable land to feed its billions, we can learn from the Palmyrians experience. If they were able to cultivate the desert soil almost 2 000 years ago, surely we can do the same with all the available modern aids and methods.

Occasionally an enormous amount of rain falls in the desert, says Professor Meyer. Anyone can see how green the desert becomes after the rain. The Palmyrians must have realised the potential of this type of land, which covers large areas of our planet.

Provided by The Research Council of Norway

"Researchers solve Roman Empire historical mystery." June 15th, 2012. http://phys.org/news/2012-06-roman-empire-historical-mystery.html

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#134433 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:30 am
Subject: News: British researchers create robot that can learn simple words by conversing with humans (w/ Video)
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British researchers create robot that can learn simple words by conversing with humans (w/ Video)

June 16th, 2012 in Electronics / Robotics
British researchers create robot that can learn simple words by conversing with humansThe iCub robot named DeeChee learning basic language with Professor Chrystopher Nehaniv and Dr Joe Saunders

In an attempt to replicate the early experiences of infants, researchers in England have created a robot that can learn simple words in minutes just by having a conversation with a human.

The work, published this week in the journal PLoS One, offers insight into how babies transition from babbling to speaking their first words.

The three-foot-tall robot, named DeeChee, was built to produce any syllable in the English language. But it knew no words at the outset of the study, speaking only babble phrases like "een rain rain mahdl kross."

During the experiment, a human volunteer attempted to teach the robot simple words for shapes and colors by using them repeatedly in regular speech.

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At first, all DeeChee could comprehend was an unsegmented stream of sounds. But DeeChee had been programmed to break up that stream into individual syllables and to store them in its memory. Once there, the words were ranked according to how often they came up in conversation; words like "red" and "green" were prized.

DeeChee also was designed to recognize words of encouragement, like "good" and "well done," from its human conversation partner. That feedback helped transform the robot's babble into coherent words, sometimes in as little as two minutes.

If repetition of sounds helps infants learn a language, then it's not surprising that our first words are often mainstays like "mama" and "dada." But why don't we start using common and simple words like "and" or "the" at the same time?

The answer, said study leader Catherine Lyon, a computer scientist at the University of Hertfordshire, is that the words that form the connective tissue of our language - words like "at," "with" and "of" - are spoken in hundreds of different ways, making them difficult for newbies to recognize. On the other hand, more concrete words like "house" or "blue" tend to be spoken in the same way nearly every time.

Because the study relied on the human volunteers speaking naturally, Lyon said it was crucial that the robot resemble a person. DeeChee was programmed to smile when it was ready to pay attention to its teacher and to stop smiling and blink when it needed a break. (Though DeeChee was designed to have a gender-neutral appearance, humans tended to treat it as a boy, according to the study.)

"When we asked people to talk to the robot as a small child, it seemed to come quite naturally to them," she said. "When they talk to a bit of disembodied software, you don't get the same response."

Paul Goldstein, a psychologist at Cornell University who has also used robots to study infant learning but wasn't involved in this study, said the work was highly innovative - and that if the researchers' theory about language acquisition is correct, they can use robots to prove it.

"If we really think we understand how infants learn," he said, "then we should be able to build a robot that can do it."

More information: Lyon C, Nehaniv CL, Saunders J (2012) Interactive Language Learning by Robots: The Transition from Babbling to Word Forms. PLoS ONE 7(6): e38236. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0038236

(c)2012 Los Angeles Times
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#134434 From: james kohl <jvkohl@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:44 am
Subject: Examples of Confusion About Phylogenetic Research and Common Ancestors
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One way to confuse others about the relative salience of sensory input and its epigenetic effects, which are responsible for adaptive evolution is to post an example of what appears to be phylogenetically causal and then fail to respond to any comments about what is now known to be phylogenetically causal to adaptive evolution.

For example, here's a post from the moderator to the ISHE's human-ethology yahoo group with the title:
A Good Example of Phylogenetic Research and Common Ancestors.

-- On Fri, 6/8/12, Jay R. Feierman <jfeierman@...> wrote:

Research article
      
The mammary gland-specific marsupial ELP and eutherian CTI share a common ancestral gene 
Pharo EA, De Leo AA, Renfree MB, Thomson PC, Lefvre CM, Nicholas KR 
BMC Evolutionary Biology 2012, 12:80 (8 June 2012)
[Abstract] [Provisional PDF]


And here is my response, with....

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"An example of phylogenetic research and common ancestry across the adaptive evolution of species from microbes to man.
 
Evolution of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) structure and its receptor

Phylogenetically, the evolution of the first cell of the mammalian placenta appears to require the interaction of 1532 genes. Transposon-mediated rewiring of gene regulatory networks contributed to the evolution of pregnancy in mammals ."

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This places the article linked by Jay Feierman
in a different perspective.

The shared common ancestral gene for mammary gland-specific marsupial ELP and eutherian CTI appears in different species hundreds of millions of years after the "perfectly constructed gene" (i.e., for GnRH) has been active in the direct determination of both endocrine and immune system function across adaptive evolution that links microbes to insects to vertebrates, including placental mammals.

The molecular biology that is common to these species has emerged as a means that allows the 'perfectly constructed" GnRH molecule to drive adaptive evolution to the point where CTI and ELP are expressed in early milk.

Milk secretion is then merely correlated with the development of immuno-incompetence in the young, at the same time that the effect of nutrient chemicals in the milk are directly linked to maternal pheromones that cause the development of the neurogenic niche responsible for mammalian brain development (e.g., the diet-responsive hypothalamic GnRH-secreting neurogenic niche that is responsible for development of our cognitive niche).

Unfortunately, it takes a broad based knowledge of molecular biology and epigenetic effects of sensory input on intracellular signaling and stochastic gene expression to clearly demonstrate how sensory cause can be directly linked to its effects on hormones and the affects of hormones on behavior, as I did in Kohl, J.V. (2012) Human pheromones and food odors: epigenetic influences on the socioaffective nature of evolved behaviors. Socioaffective Neuroscience & Psychology, 2: 17338.

This is knowledge that  few people have, and
Jay Feierman does not have it. When he fails to respond to my input, not only does he leave others with the false impression that he knows something that they do not, but he discourages any discussion that might encourage them to learn more than what he has learned about what is currently known.

In this group we have Clarence Sonny Williams as an example of what 
Jay Feierman has taught him about how to stifle discussion: Post information that suggests you have some expertise, and do not respond to anyone who has that expertise. Others may then falsely conclude that you are an expert.

The intent to mislead others should eventually become clear, but only after years of wasted effort by me, and perhaps a few others, like RAF and Artemis, to make people like Clarence Sonny Williams admit that they have nothing but outdated information from textbooks and ridiculous opinions to offer discussants here, and on the human-ethology yahoo group.  


This offers me the opportunity to comment on moderation by RKS, who encourages discussion with his posts and infrequent commentary, compared to moderation by Jay
Feierman that eliminates anyone with expertise from discussion, as Sonny Williams has tried to do here.

Kudos to RKS for his dedication to helping others learn the difference between
what appears to be phylogenetically causal and what is now known to be phylogenetically causal to adaptive evolution.

I detailed the ontogenetic involvement of the  "perfectly contructed" GnRH molecule; it's conservation, and how the diversification of its receptor in species from microbes to man links the epigenetic effects of nutrient chemicals and pheromones to brain development and behavior in an earlier, extremely technical 57-page book chapter, which was concurrently published in the Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality -- author's copy here: The Mind's Eyes: Human pheromones, neuroscience, and male sexual preferences.

We can thank people like Jay
Feierman and Sonny Williams for the lack of progress in evolutionary psychology or in human ethology during the past 5 years, or more. They have learned nothing new in the past 40-50 decades, and would rather you remain among them in their ignorance?


James V. Kohl
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#134435 From: "Anna" <pantheon@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:48 am
Subject: Re: [evil-psych] Re: Are Whites really racists?
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What exactly was this “documentary” which did not say who did what and to whom?
By definition documentaries present facts.  The facts are in history books, in  Russian archives and  recorded in Nuremburg proceedings.
Are you saying that they all  are fake? Why?
At the same time you are telling us that David Irving is a martyr of truth. Did you ever wonder his motives or researched his facts?
This would be in order if you would really want to know the truth.
However, you seem only interested in a denial of the holocaust and whitewashing of the criminals. 
Of course, in your version of the events it is Jews who are the real liars and criminals, while Nazis patriotic ideologists unjustly accused of crimes they did not commit.
 
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I watched the full two-hour documentary and there were no accusations or references to who did what. They want a new investigation opened up to STOP the conspiracy theories that will continue until this matter is settled. Why not watch the film before you make up your mind?

Artemis

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> --- In mailto:evolutionary-psychology%40yahoogroups.com, "artemistroy" <artemispub@> wrote:
> >
> > There's a holocaust survivors group in my area whose meetings I can attend at any time. The first question I would ask, depending on the camp in which each individual was detained, is if they personally witnessed anyone enter a shower room and not come out alive. If any Jew or other detainee personally manufactured shrunken heads and lampshades made of human skin, and that's just for starters. I recently watched a PBS documentary about six women who were at Auschwitz. I was especially keen to know if any of these women witnessed several thousand people, each day, enter shower rooms and not come out alive. It takes at least 1-2 hours to cremate a corpse using the most modern equipment available today; yet, with only 13 ovens, several thousand corpses were cremated each day. What were the Nazis thinking? That they could dispose of MILLIONS of Jews and other inmates with such inefficient methods? They had to be the stupidest people in the world! They did not, however, have a treatment for typhus which the Americans had, which is why so many inmates succumbed from that disease. And then add the Allied blockade of food and medicine, which was responsible for many, many more deaths.
> >
> > You cannot refute the revisionists until you access their work. When you can do that, then you can bring up this topic again. If you think it's hooey, then state the reasons why you think so. Then you should explain why Holocaust revisionist historians are the ONLY historians who have ever been tried and imprisoned for revising history.
> >
> > Artemis
> >
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> I know Europeans came to America and committed genocide against the Native Americans. They shot and killed them. They gave them smallpox ridden blankets, etc. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how the Europeans didn't commit genocide against Native Americans. I know that 800,000 Tutsi were murdered by the Hutu in Rwanda. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how this didn't happen. I know Cambodians killed at least a million of their own countrymen. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how the Cambodians didn't commit genocide. I know that man has landed on the moon. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how man didn't land on the moon. I know approximately 18 Saudi hijackers crashed almost FULLY FUELED airplanes into the World Trade Center Towers. I don't need to read a revisionist account of how our government was behind the attack.
>
> Michael Ragland
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#134436 From: "michaelragland69" <michaelragland69@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:57 am
Subject: Re: A SYSTEM DIVIDED: Integrating a School, One Child at a Time
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> Education
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> Related:
> A System Divided: To Be Black at Stuyvesant High (February 26, 2012)
> A System Divided: `Why Don't We Have Any White Kids?' (May 13, 2012)
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> A SYSTEM DIVIDED
> Integrating a School, One Child at a Time
>
> Dave Sanders for The New York Times
> Published: June 15, 2012
>
> Hopes for Diversity at a Brooklyn School
> A System Divided
>
> The Magnet Model
>
> This is the third article in a series examining the changing racial
distribution of students in New York City's public schools and its impact on
their opportunities and achievements.
> Related
>
> A System Divided: To Be Black at Stuyvesant High (February 26, 2012)
> A System Divided: `Why Don't We Have Any White Kids?' (May 13, 2012)
>
>  The girls smiled with nervous concentration. They were, unwittingly,
performing the delicate dance of desegregation.
>
>  One child was white, one was black, and seven girls were Hispanic. Kylie was
the only Asian student onstage  and in the kindergarten class this year at
Public School 257, a magnet school of the performing arts in Williamsburg,
Brooklyn.
>
>  "She's become very, very popular," her father, Benson Yang, said at the
school's family night in early spring, when the children performed. "She gets a
lot of attention."
>
>  Kylie's mother, Angie Cao, was so pleased with her daughter's experience
that she persuaded some friends to enroll their children at P.S. 257 next year.
"Everybody will come here after seeing her," she said.
>
>  If only change were as swift and simple as a child's dance recital.
>
>  Instead, P.S. 257, where 73 percent of the students are Hispanic, has found
integration to be far more intricate. One of four Williamsburg elementary
schools to win a 2010 magnet grant from the United States Education Department
to spur desegregation, it has struggled to follow a federal model created
decades ago while focusing on more urgent battles: for resources, students and,
above all, test scores.
>
>  Since the mid-1980s, New York's public schools, which are among the nation's
most segregated, have received millions of dollars in magnet grants from the
federal government. In this most recent round of grants, in 2010, the four
Williamsburg elementary schools and one middle school, all in District 14,
received a total of $10.2 million over three years; schools in Long Island City,
Queens, and on the West Side in Manhattan also won grants, for a total of $33
million.
>
>  Magnet schools were once the federal government's favored mechanism to
increase diversity and prevent "white flight." The idea was to create a themed
curriculum that attracted children from outside a school's immediate
neighborhood to reduce the isolation of one minority group. Today, as the
Williamsburg schools show, integration is an uneven process at best, hampered by
geography, legal limits and, critics say, a lack of ideological commitment from
the city.
>
>  Williamsburg, the epicenter of Brooklyn's gentrification, where a growing
white population is moving into neighborhoods dominated by Hispanics, would seem
to have the most favorable conditions in the city for integration. About 58
percent of the students in District 14 public schools are Hispanic, 26 percent
are black, 12 percent are white and 3 percent are Asian, according to the
Education Department. At each of these four elementary magnet schools, Hispanic
students represent more than 70 percent of the population.
>
>  Reducing that percentage, as the grant requires, has proved to be a
challenge for the three magnet schools in the southeastern parts of District 14,
where the socioeconomic and ethnic changes have yet to take hold with the same
force as they have in the north.
>
>  Although decades of research studies show that children perform better in
integrated schools, desegregating New York City's system has not been a distinct
priority for the mayor or his chancellors.
>
>  "I can't remember the last time anyone in a leadership position said
anything about desegregation," said Diane Ravitch, an education historian at New
York University.
>
>  "That sends a signal," she added. "They talk about choice."
>
>  The sweeping changes initiated under Schools Chancellor Joel I. Klein
focused on the creation of new schools, notably charters and high schools.
>
>  The current chancellor, Dennis M. Walcott, said the administration's
priority was to "provide a richness in quality education" for all the city's
students; there are 1.1 million, three-quarters of whom are either Hispanic or
black.
>
>  The magnet program, Mr. Walcott said, is one element of the system that
promotes choice.
>
>  "If you have choice without civil rights policies, it stratifies the
system," said Gary Orfield, the co-director of the Civil Rights Project at
U.C.L.A., a research organization that recently published a study hailing the
benefits of integrated schools. "People who have the most power and information
get the best choices," he added.
>
>  Among the policies needed in New York, Dr. Orfield said, were citywide
efforts to educate parents about magnet schools, transportation options to help
children get to schools outside their often-segregated neighborhoods and
accountability for diversity.
>
>  New York is not alone in operating its school system without a cohesive
integration plan, Dr. Orfield said, adding that the same could be said of other
major cities, like Chicago, Los Angeles and Philadelphia.
>
>  "I am focused on having high-quality schools in all neighborhoods," Mr.
Walcott said. "That's the ultimate civil rights policy."Education
>
> The Magnet Model
>
> This is the third article in a series examining the changing racial
distribution of students in New York City's public schools and its impact on
their opportunities and achievements.
> Related
>
>
> Cont'd
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/education/brooklyn-magnet-schools-see-hurdles-\
to-integration-even-in-kindergarten.html
>






I submitted the following letter to the editor to several media outlets but none
of them published it. Perhaps Mr. Frey, who is a singer and guitarist for the
Eagles, is just jaded but he made some "racial jokes" during the fund raiser at
St. Matthews Parish school. What are readers thoughts on the video posted below:



Video footage from 2004 has emerged featuring Eagles' singer-guitarist
Glenn Frey and actor Tom Hanks participating in a controversial
fundraising auction where both engage with a white businessman who is
in blackface.

According to Washington news site The Daily Caller (which obtained the
footage that you can watch here
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/20/tom-hanks-glenn-frey-in-2004-racial-shocker-bl\
\
ackface-jokes-at-fundraising-auction-video/),
Frey and Hanks took part in the March 13, 2004 fundraiser at St.
Matthews' Parish School in Pacific Palisades, LA. Both men had
children who went to the school. According to the comments of Frey the
school greatly lacks racial diversity and is conservative.

The clip, over two minutes long, shows Hanks and Frey acting as co-MCs
and interacting with a man dressed in African garb, wearing an afro
wig, carrying a stuffed gorilla and made-up in blackface. The man is
identified as James Montgomery, the CEO of California investment firm
Montgomery & Co. The theme of the auction was dubbed 'Castaways,'
relating itself to the 2000 film 'Cast Away' starring Hanks.

"Ladies and gentleman, this is as close as we'll get to diversity at
St. Matthews's," Frey says before later adding "Jamie Montgomery, just
back from a Jerry Falwell sensitivity training seminar."

"Easy," Hanks says in response to Frey.

Hanks then states the large stuffed 'trophy gorilla' comes with a
'dowry' of 5,000 shares of soon to be IPO (Initial Public Offering) in
'Corus Pharm.' Corus Pharmaceuticals was a company whose Montgomery's
family trust had a limited partnership in.

"All I know, Jamie, is that this school is so conservative that Jamie
Montgomery was almost not allowed in," Frey says. "They stuck him in
the parking lot, they let him in. These are the jokes, people."

Hanks then speaks again about the 5,000 shares before Frey adds:
"Remember, Jamie Montgomery -- he handled the Idi Amin account back in
the '80s which was good." (Amin was the brutal Ugandan military
dictator from 1971 to 1979 responsible for a reported 500,000 deaths
according to Amnesty International).

"Ouch, oh man," Hanks says in response to Frey.

After Hanks, reading from a cue card, tries to get the bidding
started, Frey says: "See how boring money management and stock
investment is, people? It's not nearly as much fun as like
professional basketball."

The backlash has already started with the Congress of Racial Equality
national spokesperson Niger Innis asking President Barack Obama to
remove Hanks' narration from a 17-minute campaign video entitled 'The
Road We've Traveled.' The video was made for Obama's re-election
campaign later this year but was posted on Obama's YouTube site on
March 15. The video, directed by Academy Award winner Davis
Guggenheim, has received more than 1.6 million views so far.

"It is gross, it's coarse, and it is shocking that something like this
would be done in California," Innis said. "Not Mississippi -- in
California! Actually, no it isn't. Those who are rich and successful
like Frey and Hanks will locate their children in well to do "less
diversified" "conservative" schools such as St Matthews Parish. Hanks
did not outright condemn Frey's comments or refuse to further
participate because he is a part of that "world" whether he publicly
admonishes it or not. There are some truths about the way groups think
and act that are so common we only get a chance to get a glimpse such
as in the 2004 Frey, Hanks and Montgomery video. Nor does it matter
the video was made in 2004. It is as fresh in 2012 as it was in 2004
as such cultural group thinking transcends time.

Montgomery and Hanks issued public apologies when questioned about their
behavior at the fund raiser. Hanks stated he was "blind sighted" and Montgomery
stated he wished it had never happened. Frey, however, hasn't apologized at all.

Many would say no apologies were needed. Montgomery, Hanks and Frey were just
kidding around and having some fun.

Michael Ragland

#134437 From: R A Fonda <rafonda@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:08 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: Are Whites really racists?
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On 6/17/2012 12:41 PM, michaelragland69 wrote:
the moderator appears to be a believer in free speech

Sounds as if you don't like that, but he is also allowing you to insult another list member because she happens to hold an opinion you have been taught is 'unacceptable'. I find your arrogance and insults:

and your repulsive character is allowed to spew its filth.

far more objectionable than Artemis saying that starving prisoners at the end of a horrible war is not the same thing as proof that millions were gassed.

In the U.S. as far as I know there are no laws against Holocaust denial.

Imagine that; no laws against thought crimes! Too bad, huh?

Some countries have sentenced/fined Holocaust deniers to a short jail sentence and/or fine.

Short? As in 7 years?

I am not going to be drawn into the argument per se, but I think it is interesting to consider reactions such as yours. Would you have been so outraged if someone had suggested that the communists did not kill millions of Ukrainians? Do you see anyone being jailed or even fined for minimizing the crimes of the Russian communists? Do you know how many other people died in WWII?

RAF


#134438 From: devilboy6x9@...
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:15 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Many "
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Roxbury was a very dangerous place in the 60's and the idiotic busing of grade school kids only made it worse. But in the end South Boston is still Irish but Dorchester and Mattapan are mainly black communities with a very high crime rate.

Sadly, during that period they gradually removed the Combat Zone!!

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Chance Favors The Prepared Mind~ L Pasteur

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From: artemistroy <artemispub@...>
Subject: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Many "
To: evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 8:26 PM

 

I just wanted to know if Pini knew. I was living in Boston during that era, and when they tried to move Blacks into the American-Italian North End, the Italians threw the furniture out of the windows into the street. It wasn't much different in the other ethnic neighborhoods. Some of these neighborhoods eventually became all Black, like Dorchester and South Boston. Yes, it was one of the worst eras in American history and, since then, the demographics have changed dramatically.

See The New York Times series on NYC school integration. NYC has become almost completely gentrified, so expensive that even working couples have to apply for rent subsidies. They did a great job, didn't they?

Artemis

--- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "clarence_sonny_williams" <clarencew@...> wrote:
>
> Artemis,
>
> It was a great time if you were white. Do a simple Google search and
> you'll find out who the Little Rock Nine were.
>
> --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "artemistroy"
> <artemispub@> wrote:
> >
> > Pini, who's the Little Rock (Ark.) Nine? The 1950s was a great time to
> live in America, alas, never to return.
> >
> > Artemis
> >
> > --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, Winyan winyan7@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Totally agree, Sonny.
> > >
> > > Living in the 1950's is no way to spend a life.
> > >
> > > 'pini
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > <snip>
> >
>


#134439 From: "Anna" <pantheon@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [evil-psych] Re: Are Whites really racists?
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Quick lime successfully  kills stench of rotten bodies.
Here is a story from Dachau’s survivor.  
Anna

Stories of Dachau survivors

Philip Riteman (Fischel Reitman)

A Facebook page has been set up in honor of Philip Riteman

Philip Riteman was one of eight children born to a Jewish family in Szereszow, a town of about 25,000 people in the Brest-Litovsk region of Poland. He is the only surviving member of his family in Europe. His parents, grandparents, 5 brothers, 2 sisters, 9 aunts and uncles, and numerous cousins were all sent to the gas chamber.

Riteman says that he does not know the exact date of his birth, but it was either in 1922 or 1925, not in 1927 as has been reported in some news articles.

After Poland was invaded by Germany in 1939, Riteman's family was forced to live in a 10 by 12 foot room with two other families in the Pruzhany ghetto, 18 kilometers from Szereszow. After 9 months in the ghetto, Riteman's family was sent on a train with about 10,000 people to Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1941.

In 1989, after more than 40 years of silence, Philip began to speak to audiences about his Holocaust experience, giving testimony as a survivor.

In a talk that he gave to students, as reported by Lacey Sheppy in The Moose Jaw Times Herald on May 23, 2008, Riteman told of the horror that he experienced.

The following quote is from the article in the Moose Jaw Times:

Seven days later, after being crammed in alongside 100 people in a rail car with no food, no water or bathrooms, the train finally stopped . . . at Auschwitz-Birkenau. As Riteman's eyes adjusted to the sunlight, he saw something that still haunts him to this day. There was a woman in her 20s, pretty, who got off the train," he said "I'll never forget her because she wore high-heeled shoes."

The woman was carrying an infant in her arms. A Nazi soldier ripped the baby from her and smashed its head onto the pavement. As the mother lunged for the child, screaming and crying, the soldier shoved a bayonet into her stomach. "There was just blood, all over, blood," said Riteman.

With no time to process what he just witnessed, Riteman was put in a line to be separated. Although only 14, Riteman lied about his age and told the Nazis he was 17. Riteman - along with other men and young, fit boys - were separated into one group, while women, children, the elderly and infirm went into another.

Labourers were sent into the camp for processing, while the rest - including Riteman's parents, grandparents, five brothers, two sisters, nine aunts and uncles and numerous cousins - were sent to the gas chambers.

"I'm the only one that survived," he said. "Many times, I wished I wouldn't have."

The tattooed number 98,706 on Riteman's arm is a constant reminder of the atrocities that followed. Starving, living in lice-infested barracks, urinating in the same bowl he used to eat, Riteman spent the next five years shuttling back and forth between Auschwitz and other camps such as Dachau, Sachsenhausen-Oranienburg, Bunalager and Landsberg. He worked whatever jobs he was given, including transporting dead bodies to the crematoriums and burying bodies in mass graves after drenching them in quick-lime to suppress the smell. "You just block out your mind like a little zombie," said Riteman. "You just do what they ask you to do."

Riteman, a formerly healthy, husky young boy, weighed only 75 pounds when he was liberated by U.S. forces May 2, 1945.


On November 22, 2006, Philip Riteman gave a presentation to students at Horton High School in Greenwich, Nova Scotia, as reported by Kirk Starratt in the Kings County Register newspaper.

With emotion etched on his face and looks of shock on the young faces surrounding him, Holocaust survivor Philip Riteman interpreted photos, following his presentation at Horton High in Greenwich, Nov. 22, 2006

Photo Credit: Kirk Starratt

The following quote is from the article by Kirk Starratt:

Riteman said he was a Grade 5 student when the Second World War started. The propaganda on the radio was unbelievable, evil lies, and some people were brainwashed quickly. He tells young people not to ever buy into propaganda, don't be brainwashed and always think for yourself. Don't hate anyone. Go out and do good things for people. If you want respect, give respect, and you'll get lots in return.

Riteman said one million German soldiers marched through his town. They went through for one month, day and night. When they came in and found people in the streets, they were grabbed and shot for nothing.

After the army went through, another group of Germans came to the town. They beat the mayor and councillors and demanded 10 kilos of gold and 20 kilos of silver. One councillor came to their home black and blue and asked if they had anything to give. Riteman said his parents gave jewelry and other items. The group left, but did this to every town.

He said all the Jews had to wear the Star of David. He recalls being driven out of his home in the middle of the night with a gun pointed at him. He and his family had to walk 60 kilometres. He never saw his home again.

The children and older people were divided from the others, put in vehicles and taken away. Those people ranging in age from 12 to 40 were forced to march. Riteman said about 500 of them were killed randomly over the 60-km stretch.

He said 14 men were chosen, one was his neighbour, and small graves were dug. He said seven were shot at a time and buried. You could see the earth still moving as the Nazis pumped bullets into the ground and jumped on the graves. Riteman found his family and was told about 30 in their group had been shot, including boys and girls, women and the disabled.

Riteman said they then spent about nine months in a ghetto with a Jewish population of about 45,000. They ate boiled grass or whatever they could find. "You don't know what hunger means. You don't know what fear is," he said. "I hope you never know."

About 120 freight train cars were brought in and everyone had to walk to the station to be loaded onto the cars, which were about eight by 20 feet. "They packed you in like sardines," he said.

Although they were told their train trip would last only an hour, it went on for six or seven days.

There was no food, water or toilets. A man dropped dead at Riteman's feet and he had to push the body to the wall. A mother was holding a baby that didn't stop crying day and night. The baby died in the mother's arms and was placed on top of the man's body.

Sometimes when he drives his car, Riteman can still hear babies crying and the women screaming.

The train finally came to a platform and stopped. There were German soldiers with guns and prisoners with signs that said, "Work makes you free". They had arrived in Auschwitz. Riteman said his family was beaten. Babies were being taken from their mothers and tossed aside in a pile.

If you were 18 to 45 you maybe had a chance of survival. Otherwise, Riteman said you were sent straight to the gas chambers. "People didn't know where they were going," he said. About 8,000 people went to the gas chambers that day.

Even though he was only 14-and-a-half, Riteman was told by someone to say he was 18. He told one of the Germans he was 17 but would turn 18 the next month. Asked what profession he had, someone else yelled out that he was a locksmith, although he knew nothing about being one. The people were trying to save him.

The Germans didn't need the young, old or white-collar professionals to work. They wanted those people used to physical work.

He said if the Germans liked the young women, they would use them for sex and discard them, as there were more being brought in by train every day.

Everyone had to remove their clothing and they were shaved. Even though it was February and -10 C, they were showered with cold water. Everyone was given a bundle of clothes and tattooed with a number.

Riteman's number was 98,706.

An estimated more than two million people ended up dying in the camp and the staff burned up to 20,000 bodies a day.

Riteman was the only member of his family to survive.

The prisoners were given wooden shoes and a bright red bowl to be fed in, if you could call what was provided food. They were fed boiled leaves they called coffee and soups with rats and frogs. "You'd eat anything, you were so hungry," he said.

They were marched to barracks and had to sleep in their clothes on rough lumber. If you weren't outside at 5 a.m., you were killed automatically. He said you got through the daily routine by letting your mind go blank. You were like a zombie. You were 90 years old every minute because you were going to die soon.

Riteman said he was taken to Auschwitz in 1942, and the American forces didn't liberate him until May 2, 1945. He had been taken to the mountains to the west by the German army with a group of others. They were there for about a month with no food and thousands of them died. He said if he had been there another two or three weeks, he wouldn't be here today.

One night they heard nothing but quiet. When daylight broke, Riteman said he thought he could see ducks in the distance crossing the river. It was the American soldiers coming toward them. As they got closer, the Americans were yelling, "You're free, you're free."

Riteman didn't speak English but one of the soldiers was a Jewish boy from Chicago who spoke to him in Yiddish.


Philip Riteman is featured in a documentary called "The Auschwitz Connection," by John Versteege. The documentary shows events that happened in 1994 and 1995 as Riteman returned to Auschwitz to participate in the "March of the Living."

The following quote is from this web site:

The Auschwitz Connection follows Riteman to several places, mostly schools, as the survivor tells about his experiences. The camera also accompanies three young Nova Scotians to Auschwitz, a concentration camp in Poland, for the March of the Living. Interviews with war veterans, reactions to the movie Schindler's List and a candlelight remembrance of Crystal Nacht (Night of the Broken Glass), one of Hitler's vicious attacks on Jewish shop owners in Germany, round out the documentary.

Riteman is the documentary's highlight. He easily captures a viewer's heart and attention. His presentations to junior and high school students are very personal and emotional. He was only 14 when he arrived at Auschwitz. He tells of the atrocities of the camp, and never fails to get a reaction from the crowd. The camera often pans to the audience, where all eyes are fixed on Riteman and sometimes show expressions of sadness, shock, or revulsion when he tells his anecdotes. He often cries.

One story he tells is about how he worked in a garden in the camp, and one day saw Nazis take little children, hang them up in trees and shoot them for target practice.

"You should hear the screams of the children. You should see the blood on the fence," says Riteman, barely able to keep his composure. " I can see it right now."


On November 10, 2005, Riteman gave a talk to College students in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada; Keith Adolph took the following notes which he posted on his blog:

-Reitman went to school as a normal child in 1938
-Early on in the war it was seen as a fight against evil
-In 1939 Poland was invaded
-His father had ties to the Russian Gov't and so they traveled to live under Russia and still it was not a good country to live in
-The Germans' journey to Minsk took them through Reitman's small town. For months they drove tanks through town
-They killed those in their way or caught watching them

-The Nazis approached the mayor and demanded 10 kilos of gold and 20 kilos of silver or they would level the town. They took the money and left after a time.
-They returned and surrounded the town before asking for more. This time the town could not pay.
-Days later, at 3 AM, the Nazis came to the houses and took people from their homes. They separated children from parents and marched the 3000 residents 60 km. Others (about 5000) were driven.
-During the march they killed roughly 200 residents.
-Before releasing the residents the Nazis took 14 people aside, striped them and shot them dead, letting their bodies drop into 7 graves already dug.
-The residents were then freed and reunited with the others.

-They were left in a small town that was entirely vacant.
-The village had been purged and the people were culled into a mass grave 50 x 100 and 7 feet deep
-En route they came upon a town and they were collected into a ghetto of 40,000.
-After Reitman's group joined the ghetto, any person approaching the ghetto was shot.
The ghetto had no food.

-Nine months later the ghetto was liquidated
-The residents were told they were being taken to a farm.
-They were all collected into 120 freight cars with all they could carry.
-The trains traveled for hours - all day
-A baby starved to death on the journey
-A man dropped dead and was pushed to the wall
-The train kept going
-The train traveled for 6 nights and 7 days.
-No food, No water
-People were soiling themselves where they stood
-One man was using a spoon to catch snow drops falling outside for water
-Reitman and the others were taken to Auschwitz

-The doors were opened and everyone jumped out
-Reitman grabbed his little sister. Also in the car were his two brothers, his big sister and his parents
-The Nazis beat and pushed them onto a platform
-A woman chasing her baby was stabbed to death with a bayonet
-Reitman was told to pretend that he was 18 when the Nazis were dividing the Jews by age and gender.
-If you were 18-45 you had a chance of surviving
-Parents with their young children were taken straight to the gas chambers.

-The Nazis began to divide the men by occupation
-Reitman pretended to be a locksmith
-The intellectuals were collected (about 300 of them) and machine gunned to death. The Nazis only needed workers.
-They were ordered to strip naked and shot if they moved too slowly.
-The Jews were shaved from head to toe.
-Body searches were conducted. Those caught hiding anything, even their gold teeth were executed.

-If you spoke German in the camps, the Nazis would bring out 'interpreters' who beat you with sticks so that you would never speak German again.

-Hundreds of men were put into cold showers and then given striped clothes.
-They were given a bowl, no utensils.
-They were then tattooed.
-Over 2 million died at Auschwitz.
-They were made to march. If you refused, your legs were broken.
-The Jews marched better than the Nazis.
-The Nazis would lock them into their barracks each night.
-They fit 7 into each bunk.
-There were 125,000 men at Auschwitz at this time.
-Only 20,000 were Jewish. The others were Russians, Gypsies, Blacks and so on.

-Reitman spent 2 years at Auschwitz and then 2 years at Dachau. In between he spent 6 months in Birkenau where there were 2000 men to a barrack
-Smaller camps would kill their population and then call on larger camps to replenish their numbers. This is why Reitman moved around so much.

-Reitman says he had to close his mind to survive. He was like a zombie.
-He learned to never be first or last in line. Always be in the middle.
-He lost five brothers, his parents, his grandparents. He lost nine uncles and nine aunts and many cousins.
-He was the only survivor in his whole European family.
-He could not talk about the camps or his family for forty years.

"What kept you going?"
-If there is a God somewhere he will help me.
-He would have liked to have eaten one big meal and then died
-They ate one bowl of soup a day.
-If they had lost their bowl they were accused of sabotaging the Nazi Gov't and beaten to death with sticks
-They wouldn't waste the bullet.
-By comparison, the homeless today live in heaven. The Nazis burned them.
-If you limped, you were shot.
-Those who escaped got only 100-1000 feet and they starved to death.
-When they returned they were shot and burned by their fellow prisoners at the start of their day (5 AM)

-After 6 months in the camp Reitman found an old class mate who was in the camps because he was a Baptist.
-The boy recognized Reitman and called out to him.
-The Nazis had wanted his family's cattle but the boy's father would not give it to them. He was shot.
-His mother attacked the Nazis and she was hung in the town center.
-His sisters were cut and raped and shot in the heart.
-His little brother was chased into the woods and shot.
-The boy joined Reitman's work group on a farm and was instantly hated by the Nazis.
-One day he was stripped and put into a water trough. The Nazis took steel wool and tried to take his freckles off.
-The boy died in the trough which was full of his own blood.
-Reitman and the others had to take the boy back to camp to be burned.
-He was Reitman's best friend.

-Reitman was sent to another camp. When he arrived the barrack was full of all the dead.
-He and the others were forced to bury the bodies, but they were forbidden to pray.
-At another camp he spent a month in an airplane hanger.
-At Dachau the barracks were filled with bodies piled 7 ft high.
-When they tried to remove them the bodies came apart in their hands.
-These barracks were sunken into the ground

-They were marched for 2-3 weeks in the winter with only the snow to eat.
-Reitman estimates that 50,000 were killed for their weakness.
-They marched with tanks so that American planes would not bomb the convoys. The Jews wished they would though, just to kill the Germans.
-One night the camp was empty, not a German in sight. In the distance he could see the Americans coming, calling "You're free!"
-This was May 2, 1945. Reitman was 18 years old and 75 lbs.

-The Americans brought food and medicine.
-Reitman had never seen bananas before, or a coloured person.
-A coloured soldier taught him to peel bananas.
-He would drink 3-4 cans of milk a day

-Reitman says he will never go back to the camps, but urges young people to visit them.
-He says he sees the camp every time he closes his eyes, even when he lived in Newfoundland.
-It would take Reitman 5 years to tell the story of his 5 years in the camps.

-He cannot forgive or forget what happened. Only God can forgive.
-Reitman says he does not hate the Germans he met after the war. He only hates the Nazis

-"I am speaking for millions who cannot speak"

-When he saw Americans he applied to go to the USA.
-The Red Cross took care of him in Europe and asked him about his history which they compared to his records held by the Nazis
-A month later he received a letter from Newfoundland from his mother's sister.
-Then he got another letter from Newfoundland with 20 US $ in it.
-And then another from Montreal with 10 US $
-Then New York from his father's sister and an uncle who had left Europe in 1890 and another in 1905.
-They were all relatives that he had never known to exist.
-In 1946 he was to come to Canada but the Canadian Gov't would not allow Jews into the country.
-Newfoundland was not part of Canada at the time and they brought him right over.
-He traveled from Munich to Paris to New York to Newfoundland.
-He had never been on a boat before and he was very sea sick.
-The Newfoundland Gov't said he was a free man. He was a Newfoundlander.

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> I don't understand how the Red Cross could have missed thousands of bodies laying about, the very same that we have seen in the shocking photos. How quickly could so many corpses be disposed of so that they would not be detected? Wouldn't there be a terrific stench from so many rotting corpses due to the limited crematorium equipment?
>
> Why would German headquarters be the least bit concerned that the Red Cross was having difficulty getting donated supplies into the camps because of the Allied blockade? If all the remaining inmates were slated for extermination, why should the Nazis care if they had food and medicine?
>
> The claims made as to what the Nazis did in the camps is humanly and technically IMPOSSIBLE.
>
> Artemis
>
> --- In mailto:evolutionary-psychology%40yahoogroups.com, "michaelragland69" <michaelragland69@> wrote:
> >
> > The Red Cross was allowed to see what the Nazis wanted them to see. The Red Cross was not allowed to witness the extermination facilities at Auschwitz i.e. the gassing chambers and the ovens.
> >
> > Michael Ragland
> >
> <snip>
>

You know people complained about the smell coming from Jeffery Dahmer's place but nobody ever called the health department. Dahmer told some tenants that he had rotten meat. I'm not aware of the Nazis leaving thousands of dead bodies laying around except near the ehd of the war when it was obvious Germany had lost and they fled to escape prosecution. The Germans at the death camps were informed ahead of time when the Red Cross was visiting and they would "stage" the camp as humanely as possible. It was a sham and I believe the Red Cross has apologized for its behavior during the war

From the Newyork Times

World News Briefs; Red Cross Admits Failing To Condemn Holocaust
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The Red Cross handed over 60,000 World War II-era documents to an Israeli archive today and admitted a ''moral failure'' in not having spoken out against the Nazi genocide that killed six million Jews.

The Red Cross ''admits -- yes -- that it has kept silent with regard to the Holocaust, and I would say that this is the heart of the moral failure,'' said George Willemin, archive director for the Geneva-based International Committee of the Red Cross.

The statement follows an apology by the Roman Catholic Church in France last week on its silence over French collaboration with the Holocaust.

The documents, on 30 reels of microfilm, were given to Yad Vashem, Israel's Holocaust memorial. They are also being given to the Holocaust Museum in Washington and the Jewish Documentation Center in Paris.

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#134440 From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <stonjek@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:29 am
Subject: News: Canada court says suicide laws unconstitutional
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Canada court says suicide laws unconstitutional

June 15th, 2012 in Other

(AP) A British Columbia Supreme Court judge ruled Thursday that Canadian laws banning doctor-assisted suicide are unconstitutional.

B.C. Supreme Court Justice Lynn Smith declared the laws invalid, but also suspended her ruling for one year to give Canada's federal Parliament time to draft legislation with her ruling in mind.

Canada's federal government is expected to appeal the decision. The case will likely go to the Canadian Supreme Court.

Smith also allowed the ailing Gloria Taylor, 64, to seek a physician-assisted suicide during the one-year period if she wants. Taylor was diagnosed in 2009 with

Lou Gehrig's disease, also known as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis or ALS, which is rapidly progressive and invariably fatal.

Smith said the provisions in Canada's constitution infringe on Taylor's rights to life, liberty and security of persons.

She said the laws are discriminatory for those who are grievously ill or physically disabled who want to have some control over their circumstances at the end of their lives.

Countries are increasingly wrestling with the issue of assisted suicide as their populations age.

It has been illegal in Canada to counsel, aid or abet a suicide, an offence carrying a maximum prison sentence of 14 years.

Grace Pastine of the British Civil Liberties Association called it a major victory for individual rights at the end of life.

"The court has recognized that Canadians who are seriously and incurably ill have the right to request a physician to assist them in a dignified and human manner," she said.

Pastine said Taylor released a statement in which she said she was deeply grateful knowing that she'll have a choice at the end of her life and that it allows her to approach her death with dignity.

Dr. Will Johnson, Chair of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, called it a "radical" decision but noted Parliament will have a say.

"We're disappointed but not surprised at the radical nature of this decision today which essentially legalizes assisted suicide and euthanasia in Canada," Johnson said.

"We think this judgment decided to minimize and to disregard a lot of the evidence of harm in other jurisdictions where assisted suicide and euthanizes has been practiced."

It has been nearly 20 years since another person with Lou Gehrig's disease, Sue Rodriguez, gripped Canada with her court battle for the right to assisted suicide. She lost her appeal but took her own life with the help of an anonymous doctor in 1994, at the age of 44.

In the latest case, Taylor's lead lawyer, civil liberties defender Joe Arvay, argued to the court that assisted suicides were taking place despite the ban, a practice he likened to the illegal "back-alley abortions" of the past.

As she began her court fight in December 2011, Taylor was confined to a wheelchair in constant pain with hands that barely work.

Taylor said she has challenges with everyday living, unable to alone perform basic household tasks and personal care such as bathing.

Opponents argue that allowing assisted deaths could lead to abuses of the elderly and infirm. Johnston of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition of Canada fears people could be pushed toward death when their lives are no longer convenient for others. Only last year Parliament voted 228-59 against changing the law to allow doctors to help people die "once the person has expressed his or her free and informed consent to die."

Supporters draw support from the Royal Society of Canada, the country's senior scholarly body. Its panel of professors and specialists in medical ethics and health law said in a report issued Nov. 15 that assisted death in Canada should be regulated and monitored rather than criminalized.

It said assisted suicide or voluntary euthanasia is legal in the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and the U.S. states of Oregon, Washington and Montana, while in England and Wales the policy does not stipulate that every case must be prosecuted.

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Associated Press Writer Rob Gillies in Toronto contributed to this report.

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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#134441 From: mark hubey <hubeev@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:31 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Many "
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I am pointing out that liberals (e.g. leftists) take different sides whenever it suits them. 

The only consistency is about demanding welfare.



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--- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, mark hubey <hubeev@...> wrote:
>
> Why don't we ask female athletes if they want to get out of "separate but
> equal" sports
> e.g. women's basketball, women's wrestling, women's ....

I came into this topic late so forgive me if I misunderstand you. Are you suggesting so-called "racial differences" in ability are on par with sex differences?

Michael Ragland

<snip>




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#134442 From: mark hubey <hubeev@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:34 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] A SYSTEM DIVIDED: Integrating a School, One Child at a Time
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I thought NYC was where all the leftists, liberals, open-minded, tolerant radicals, revolutionaries lived.



On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM, artemistroy <artemispub@...> wrote:
 

Education

Related:
A System Divided: To Be Black at Stuyvesant High (February 26, 2012)
A System Divided: `Why Don't We Have Any White Kids?' (May 13, 2012)

A SYSTEM DIVIDED
Integrating a School, One Child at a Time

Dave Sanders for The New York Times
Published: June 15, 2012

Hopes for Diversity at a Brooklyn School
A System Divided

The Magnet Model

This is the third article in a series examining the changing racial distribution of students in New York City's public schools and its impact on their opportunities and achievements.
Related

A System Divided: To Be Black at Stuyvesant High (February 26, 2012)
A System Divided: `Why Don't We Have Any White Kids?' (May 13, 2012)

¶ The girls smiled with nervous concentration. They were, unwittingly, performing the delicate dance of desegregation.

¶ One child was white, one was black, and seven girls were Hispanic. Kylie was the only Asian student onstage — and in the kindergarten class this year at Public School 257, a magnet school of the performing arts in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

¶ "She's become very, very popular," her father, Benson Yang, said at the school's family night in early spring, when the children performed. "She gets a lot of attention."

¶ Kylie's mother, Angie Cao, was so pleased with her daughter's experience that she persuaded some friends to enroll their children at P.S. 257 next year. "Everybody will come here after seeing her," she said.

¶ If only change were as swift and simple as a child's dance recital.

¶ Instead, P.S. 257, where 73 percent of the students are Hispanic, has found integration to be far more intricate. One of four Williamsburg elementary schools to win a 2010 magnet grant from the United States Education Department to spur desegregation, it has struggled to follow a federal model created decades ago while focusing on more urgent battles: for resources, students and, above all, test scores.

¶ Since the mid-1980s, New York's public schools, which are among the nation's most segregated, have received millions of dollars in magnet grants from the federal government. In this most recent round of grants, in 2010, the four Williamsburg elementary schools and one middle school, all in District 14, received a total of $10.2 million over three years; schools in Long Island City, Queens, and on the West Side in Manhattan also won grants, for a total of $33 million.

¶ Magnet schools were once the federal government's favored mechanism to increase diversity and prevent "white flight." The idea was to create a themed curriculum that attracted children from outside a school's immediate neighborhood to reduce the isolation of one minority group. Today, as the Williamsburg schools show, integration is an uneven process at best, hampered by geography, legal limits and, critics say, a lack of ideological commitment from the city.

¶ Williamsburg, the epicenter of Brooklyn's gentrification, where a growing white population is moving into neighborhoods dominated by Hispanics, would seem to have the most favorable conditions in the city for integration. About 58 percent of the students in District 14 public schools are Hispanic, 26 percent are black, 12 percent are white and 3 percent are Asian, according to the Education Department. At each of these four elementary magnet schools, Hispanic students represent more than 70 percent of the population.

¶ Reducing that percentage, as the grant requires, has proved to be a challenge for the three magnet schools in the southeastern parts of District 14, where the socioeconomic and ethnic changes have yet to take hold with the same force as they have in the north.

¶ Although decades of research studies show that children perform better in integrated schools, desegregating New York City's system has not been a distinct priority for the mayor or his chancellors.

¶ "I can't remember the last time anyone in a leadership position said anything about desegregation," said Diane Ravitch, an education historian at New York University.

¶ "That sends a signal," she added. "They talk about choice."

¶ The sweeping changes initiated under Schools Chancellor Joel I. Klein focused on the creation of new schools, notably charters and high schools.

¶ The current chancellor, Dennis M. Walcott, said the administration's priority was to "provide a richness in quality education" for all the city's students; there are 1.1 million, three-quarters of whom are either Hispanic or black.

¶ The magnet program, Mr. Walcott said, is one element of the system that promotes choice.

¶ "If you have choice without civil rights policies, it stratifies the system," said Gary Orfield, the co-director of the Civil Rights Project at U.C.L.A., a research organization that recently published a study hailing the benefits of integrated schools. "People who have the most power and information get the best choices," he added.

¶ Among the policies needed in New York, Dr. Orfield said, were citywide efforts to educate parents about magnet schools, transportation options to help children get to schools outside their often-segregated neighborhoods and accountability for diversity.

¶ New York is not alone in operating its school system without a cohesive integration plan, Dr. Orfield said, adding that the same could be said of other major cities, like Chicago, Los Angeles and Philadelphia.

¶ "I am focused on having high-quality schools in all neighborhoods," Mr. Walcott said. "That's the ultimate civil rights policy."Education

The Magnet Model

This is the third article in a series examining the changing racial distribution of students in New York City's public schools and its impact on their opportunities and achievements.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/education/brooklyn-magnet-schools-see-hurdles-to-integration-even-in-kindergarten.html




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#134443 From: "artemistroy" <artemispub@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:06 am
Subject: How Whites took over America: revised history
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Whites confront racist Native Americans and inform them of the latest in
evolutionary theory. See if you recognize any of the members of this group. :~)
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#134444 From: mark hubey <hubeev@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:44 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Ma
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All the arguments are about more and more welfare.

All this comes from the original welfare classes at the universities.

And they did this while they were sliming the very scientists and engineers who put them on welfare.


These are dedicated to them.

Inspiration


So you say you need some inspiration

You really chose a good one for oration

It has so much potential for annotation


No need for even a dash of perspiration?

Or willingness to tolerate some frustration?

People will generously offer conversation.


You can later profess some false admiration :-)

Then we can all go on a facebook celebration.

Oh, this word provided wonderful incubation.


In reality you must be a retarded aberration

You are not even alive, just bad animation

Maybe you are just an arrested sensation


You constantly whine about deprivation

You incessantly cry about desecration

While you practice endless depradation


You seem to be always in high agitation

Your ideas have absolutely no foundation

Yet you demand stupendous compensation


For a long time your brain is on vacation

Yet you depracate others' needed salvation

You seem to be always a victim of temptation


You cry that you have no concentration

But what you seriously lack is dedication

Is that why deceit is your only vocation?


You are always screaming you are for creation

You are always high on such elation

Where is your congregation?


Slow Mental Degeneration


Lack of ability stretched to the point of abnormality

Alleged "creativity" hanging at the point of absurdity

Insipidity and stupidity parading around as affability

Pointless and ridiculous revolts against agreeability


Of course no one thinks that these are really agressivity

Why would any of these idiots view these with alacrity

When did any of them have problems with ambiguity

They have always rejoiced at the thought of amorality


They work at destroying civilization since antiquity

Their work has always suffered from much artificiality

It has always been about brutality, carnality, and atrocity

They always worship their work as dripping in creativity







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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0507/Title-IX-case-Boy-banned-as-too-good-for-girls-field-hockey-team
The attorney for a 13-year-old Long Island boy who was kicked off his high school’s girls’ field hockey team for being too dominant says his client will most likely be reinstated. He's smaller than most of the girls...!!

http://www.metro.co.uk/showbiz/15995-tennis-pay-gap-unfair
The arguments for men earning more are based around the fact they play five sets instead of three.


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Subject: [evol-psych] Re: " Richard Dawkins, Edward O. Wilson, and the Consensus of the Ma
To: "evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com" <evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 10:00 AM


 

Mark H "Why don't we ask female athletes if they want to get out of "separate but
equal" sports
e.g. women's basketball, women's wrestling, women's ...."

I'm a female athlete and all I want is reasonable competition levels. I enjoy co-Ed teams, have held my own on an otherwise all male league, but find their are plenty of all- female teams against which there would be no competition and no fun for either.

The issue is, although humans can be separated into various classifications (gender, race, height, age, language,etc) we don't always want to be unilaterally categorized by any one of them. At least I don't.

Ps. I'm sure my over-60 women's soccer team could take on the men's over-80 team ;-)

Nancy




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#134445 From: mark hubey <hubeev@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:46 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: [evil-psych] Thomas Sowell on IQ and Race
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Logic is a minor branch of math. Intelligence is about much more.



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On 6/17/2012 1:11 AM, Anna wrote:

I.Q. in the end is about ability to  be logical.

Wrong. So many posters who think they 'know' things that aren't true.

RAF




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#134446 From: "Anna" <pantheon@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:41 am
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: [evil-psych] Thomas Sowell on IQ and Race
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Are you saying that intelligence  does not need to be based on logic??  This would be unintelligent claim,
as all intelligent reasoning is based on logic.   Here are some definitions for you.
 
”Logic is concerned with what is true and how we can know whether something is true. This involves the formalisation of logical arguments and proofs in terms of symbols representing propositions and logical connectives. The meanings of these logical connectives are expressed by a set of rules which are assumed to be self-evident.
 
World English Dictionary
logic (ˈlɒdʒɪk)
n
1. formal logic deduction See also induction the branch of philosophy concerned with analysing the patterns of reasoning by which a conclusion is properly drawn from a set of premises, without reference to meaning or context
2. formal system Compare formal language any particular formal system in which are defined axioms and rules of inference
3. the system and principles of reasoning used in a specific field of study
4. a particular method of argument or reasoning
5. force or effectiveness in argument or dispute
6. reasoned thought or argument, as distinguished from irrationality
7. the relationship and interdependence of a series of events, facts, etc
8. chop logic to use excessively subtle or involved logic or argument
9. electronics, computing
a.See also logic circuit the principles underlying the units in a computer system that perform arithmetical and logical operations
b. ( as modifier ): a logic element
[C14: from Old French logique from Medieval Latin logica (neuter plural, treated in Medieval Latin as feminine singular), from Greek logikos concerning speech or reasoning]

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logic
mid-14c., "branch of philosophy that treats of forms of thinking," from O.Fr. logique, from L. (ars) logica, from Gk. logike (techne) "reasoning (art)," from fem. of logikos "pertaining to speaking or reasoning," from logos "reason, idea, word" (see logos). Meaning "logical
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argumentation" is from c.1600.
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logic (lŏj'ĭk) Pronunciation Key
The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning.

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logic definition


The branch of philosophy dealing with the principles of reasoning. Classical logic, as taught in ancient Greece and Rome, systematized rules for deduction. The modern scientific and philosophical logic of deduction has become closely allied to mathematics, especially in showing how the foundations of mathematics lie in logic.

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logic definition


1. A branch of philosophy and mathematics that deals with the formal principles, methods and criteria of validity of inference, reasoning and knowledge.
Logic is concerned with what is true and how we can know whether something is true. This involves the formalisation of logical arguments and
proofs in terms of symbols representing propositions and logical connectives. The meanings of these logical connectives are expressed by a set of rules which are assumed to be self-evident.
Boolean algebra deals with the basic operations of truth values: AND, OR, NOT and combinations thereof. Predicate logic extends this with existential and universal quantifiers and symbols standing for predicates which may depend on variables. The rules of natural deduction describe how we may proceed from valid premises to valid conclusions, where the premises and conclusions are expressions in predicate logic.
Symbolic logic uses a
meta-language concerned with truth, which may or may not have a corresponding expression in the world of objects called existance. In symbolic logic, arguments and proofs are made in terms of symbols representing propositions and logical connectives. The meanings of these begin with a set of rules or primitives which are assumed to be self-evident. Fortunately, even from vague primitives, functions can be defined with precise meaning.
Boolean logic deals with the basic operations of truth values: AND, OR, NOT and combinations thereof. Predicate logic extends this with existential quantifiers and universal quantifiers which introduce bound variables ranging over finite sets; the predicate itself takes on only the values true and false. Deduction describes how we may proceed from valid premises to valid conclusions, where these are expressions in predicate logic.
Carnap used the phrase "rational reconstruction" to describe the logical analysis of thought. Thus logic is less concerned with how thought does proceed, which is considered the realm of psychology, and more with how it should proceed to discover truth. It is the touchstone of the results of thinking, but neither its regulator nor a motive for its practice.
See also fuzzy logic, logic programming, arithmetic and logic unit, first-order logic,
See also
Boolean logic, fuzzy logic, logic programming, first-order logic, logic bomb, combinatory logic, higher-order logic, intuitionistic logic, equational logic, modal logic, linear logic, paradox.
2.
Boolean logic circuits.
See also
arithmetic and logic unit, asynchronous logic, TTL
.
(1995-03-17)

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From: mark hubey
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Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: [evil-psych] Thomas Sowell on IQ and Race
 
 

Logic is a minor branch of math. Intelligence is about much more.

 


On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM, R A Fonda <rafonda@...> wrote:
 

On 6/17/2012 1:11 AM, Anna wrote:

I.Q. in the end is about ability to  be logical.

Wrong. So many posters who think they 'know' things that aren't true.

RAF


 
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#134447 From: "Anna" <pantheon@...>
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:09 am
Subject: rational thought in America
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As America Grows More Polarized, Conservatives Increasingly Reject Science and Rational Thought

The Tea Party has intensified social pressure on conservative-leaning Americans to shun science and academia.
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Public education and even modern science are relatively new developments in human history. So it makes sense that it would have taken the populace a while to catch up to understanding that evolution did happen, and that angels probably aren’t real.

But recent polling data suggests that gradual acceptance of the facts may not be the trend when it comes to the theory of evolution. In the 30 years since Gallup started asking people whether they believe humans evolved, evolved under the guidance of God, or were created fully formed by God, the percentage of people adhering to the creationist view has actually gone up slightly over time, and now stands at 46 percent of the population. This is just the tip of the iceberg of a growing problem of public rejection of science.

At the same time, there’s been a steady rise in people who believe that humanity evolved without any supernatural guidance, and now stands at 15 percent. What this seeming conflict suggests is that the issue is getting more polarized, as people feel they either have to pick Team Evolution or Team Creationism.

It turns out that education isn’t enough to fight ignorance, not when it comes to heavily politicized issues like evolutionary theory. As Chris Mooney argues in his book The Republican Brain, political identity generally trumps sober-minded assessment of the facts when it comes to convincing people of an argument or idea. The theory of evolution isn’t being rejected on its merits by the people who don't buy it. It really can’t be by someone who is honestly assessing the evidence.

The Tea Party has only intensified social pressure on conservative-leaning Americans to shun anything perceived as irreligious or academic. Science has always had a political edge to it, but the culture wars ramped up by the Tea Party have taken the problem to a whole new level.

The past decade-plus have turned science from a mostly politically neutral issue into a heavily partisan one, with Republicans becoming the party of anti-science while Democrats increasingly tout their dedication to research and evidence-based policy. According to a study published in American Sociological Review, since 1974, conservative trust in science has been in a free-fall, declining 25 percent. In 1974, conservatives were the most pro-science group, higher than liberals and moderates. Now they’re the least pro-science group of all, with liberals showing the most trust in science.

People who frequently attend church were the most likely to lose their trust in science, reinforcing the cultural sense that faith precludes acceptance of religious facts.

Evolution is hardly the only scientific reality to suffer from conservatives' growing sense that their ideology is not compatible with science. In the short period between 2010 and 2012, the percentage of conservatives who accept global warming declined from half of conservatives to only 30 percent of them. That doesn’t reflect any kind of major shift in the evidence or the arguments around global warming--the scientific consensus that warming is happening and human-made has only solidified in the past couple of decades--so much as the strengthened perception that conservatism and believing in global warming are mutually exclusive. As the political media pays more attention to conservative distrust of science and liberal embrace of it, the image of who believes what will only intensify.

Climate change is strongly associated in the public mind, rightly or wrongly, with anti-capitalism. The theory of evolution faces a similar problem, especially as it’s routinely linked by religious and other thought leaders with a kind of subversive atheism. These kind of identity politics that create doubt about science have immediate negative impacts for all of us, especially with regards to global warming, but as with many things pushed by conservatives, working class and poor people are likely to pay the greatest price. Any liberal who focuses on economic issues should pay close attention, because in many ways, the war on science is a war on the most vulnerable among us.

The public’s resistance to evolution might not seem like a big deal at first, since the main result of conservative activism is that high school biology programs give up teaching evolution, while universities retain their evidence-based curriculum. In fact, Kevin Drum argued in Mother Jones that creationism in schools didn’t really matter because, “knowledge of evolution adds only slightly to a 10th-grade understanding of biology.”

The problem with that is that someone who doesn’t get proper education early tends to lag behind for the rest of their educational career, and the 10th-grader who doesn’t get real biology courses will often be too far behind her better-educated peers in college to even consider a career in science. How many potential doctors and scientists are being lost because they didn’t have the economic advantage of going to a private school that did provide a proper education, but instead went to a public school that dished out creationist propaganda?

As PZ Myers argued, the poor public education in science means that a shrinking portion of the American public is going into careers in science. Americans from working class backgrounds who go into these careers are far more likely to use their education and career contacts to return to their communities and improve the economic and health conditions back home. But with these declining numbers of American scientists, that possibility is being shut down.

The public’s rejection of global warming is even more dangerous for working class and poor people. It’s well-understood that poorer people bear the brunt of environmental destruction, since they can’t afford to move out of polluted areas that are linked to health issues like asthma and cancer. There’s no reason to think that global warming won’t create similar problems, with wealthier people abandoning areas that are now flood plains. As summers get hotter, air conditioning is going to become all the more necessary, but soaring fuel prices will start putting it out of reach for ordinary people, even as the annual death toll from heat stroke continues to climb.

But because the media portrays climate change as “controversial”--strictly because of conservative distrust of science--most Americans are oblivious to the severity of the problem. Campaigns barely touch it, and lower-income people have even more obstacles when it comes to demanding action on this issue, because they’re usually too busy worrying about immediate economic concerns. Better science education and more trust in science could help the raise the issue higher on the priority list for all voters, but especially those who will be most affected. As it is now, it’s nearly impossible to get the conversation started.

Science and science education feel like they’re academic issues that, while interesting and important, aren’t top-tier progressive issues like economic justice or healthcare access. But without strong social support for science, these goals will be much harder to reach, and in some cases, impossible. The high levels of scientific illiteracy in the U.S. should be as upsetting to liberals as high levels of reading illiteracy would be, and should be addressed just as seriously.

 
 

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