FYI. Source: OSHA QuickTakes for the month of January

* UN Adopts Globally Harmonized System for Hazard Classification

A United Nations' committee adopted a globally harmonized system
(GHS) for hazard classification and labeling of chemicals at a
meeting in Geneva last month. The GHS recommends harmonized criteria
to define health, physical and environmental hazards, as well as
information to be included on labels and material safety data sheets.
OSHA and other U.S. agencies have actively participated in
development of the GHS. Decisions regarding implementation will be
made after all participating agencies have an opportunity to review
the completed system.
http://www.unece.org/press/pr2002/02trans07e.htm

* Fact Sheets on Farm Safety, Fire Safety, Variances, Rights of
Trucking Employees

OSHA recently updated four fact sheets on various safety and health
issues.

Farm Safety provides recommendations on improving safety on farms by
increasing awareness of safety hazards.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_General_Facts/FarmFactS2.pdf

Fire Safety discusses employer requirements for protecting workers
against fire hazards.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_General_Facts/FireSafetyN.pdf

The Variance fact sheet combines two previous publications and
provides general information on the topic and application
instructions.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_General_Facts/VarianceFactS.pdf

Finally, workers in the trucking industry can obtain important
information on their rights if they feel they've been discharged or
discriminated against for involvement in protected safety activities.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_General_Facts/truck-fact-factsheet.pdf

I've a query - actually 2 of them-
1) What are the advantages of having limited quantities when shipping
DG by sea
2) what are the advantages of transportation of gases by MEGC's

Pardon the ignorance, but I am a sailing shippie and feel that I
don't see the complete picture - only parts of it!

Sam

Sam welcome to the Hazmat 101 List.

About Q. 1:
The answer to the question is: cost savings and reduced compliance
requirements for the shipper and the carrier. Other issues include
insurance: lower costs for lower risk shipments. Certain motor
carriers are limited to carry/transport low risk or certain classes
of materials.

Remember that whatever is transported by ship will eventually be
transloaded for tranport by truck or rail on land.

For example according to the US regs: Shipping as Limited Quantity
the shipment is excepted from labeling (unless by air), specification
packaging, and placarding if they qualify and comply with
requirements. Slight variations exist depending on the material.

For a summary of exceptions based on U.S. regulations see Hazmat 101
News - December 2000 available at:

http://www.hazmat101.com

For your situation you should verify the requirements under the IMDG
Code. Although most national regulations, and the IMDG regs, are
based on the model UN DG regs, they may have variations

Any IMDG experts out there? Does it make sense?

About Q. 2
What is MEGC

Cheers.
PC

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<sryram@y...> wrote:
> I've a query - actually 2 of them-
> 1) What are the advantages of having limited quantities when
shipping
> DG by sea
> 2) what are the advantages of transportation of gases by MEGC's
>
> Pardon the ignorance, but I am a sailing shippie and feel that I
> don't see the complete picture - only parts of it!
>
> Sam

Happy New Years,

I know I've seen it, I probably have it, but I can't find it.

What document contains the recomended tests that a team member should
have when initally joining a HazMat team?

This details things such as pulmanary function tests, specific lab
tests for heavy metals ect...

Thanks

Warren

Warren:

It all depends on the potential exposures for the employees, and whether or
not they might be required to wear a respirator.   If it is an in-house
team, then the amount of monitoring may be reduced to include only those
compounds that are normally present.  Otherwise, a more wide broad approach
must be taken to account for the unknowns that could arise.

There also are, you may recall, specific OSHA medical monitoring
requirements for specific chemicals, such as lead and ethylene oxide, that
may exceed the HAZWOPER and Respiratory Rule requirements [1910.134(e)].
OSHA has posted a link to all of their chemical specific standards at:
http://www.osha-slc.gov/SLTC/medicalsurveillance/hazardspecific.html.  There
is also a separate standard for fire brigade physicals [1910.156(b)(2)].
This is the domain of the medical expert, not necessarily the employer or
employee.  OSHA has indicated a preference for examining physicians to be
knowledgeable in occupational medicine [1910.120 (f)(5)]; I would interpret
this to mean board certified in occupational health medicine.  Most
physicians I have worked with ask what the actual exposure data has been
before making any recommendations; in the absence of exposure data, they
have assumed the worst case.

The joint NIOSH/OSHA/USCG/EPA guidance manual (NIOSH publication 85-115)
includes a detailed section on medical monitoring and the recommended tests
and has a table of suggested tests for both general organ function and
contaminant monitoring.  This document was dated 1985, however, and there
may be more current information and regulatory requirements.  I have text
copies of these tables from a HAZWOPER text I have written and could forward
them to you if you like.

Rodger Ferguson, CHMM



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To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hazmat101] Initial Medical Exams

Happy New Years,

I know I've seen it, I probably have it, but I can't find it.

What document contains the recomended tests that a team member should
have when initally joining a HazMat team?

This details things such as pulmanary function tests, specific lab
tests for heavy metals ect...

Thanks

Warren



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--- "jwbillett49417 <jwbillett49417@...>"
<jwbillett49417@...> wrote:
> Happy New Years,
>
> I know I've seen it, I probably have it, but I can't
> find it.
>
> What document contains the recomended tests that a
> team member should
> have when initally joining a HazMat team?
>
> This details things such as pulmanary function
> tests, specific lab
> tests for heavy metals ect...
>
> Thanks
>
> Warren



"The Occupational Safety and Health Guidance Manual
for Hazardous Waste Site Activities" put together by
NIOSH, OSHA, USCG and EPA might be the place to look.

Hope that is of some help.



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Does anyone have any type of training document or more so a guidance document
that covers in a succinct yet short (6-8 pages) and sweet fashion the arena
of PPE. Something that could be given to a person who had say Awareness Level
training but was perhaps in need of Operations Level training yet you did not
have the time nor the mission to upgrade them. Obviously this document is not
meant to replace training on PPE but rather would serve as a primer of sorts.

If you have anything like this or know of anything like it that is web
accessible please contact me at LNMolino@... I really don't want to
reinvent the wheel and write a 6-8 page document if something is already
available to do the job.

Thanks.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
LNMolino@...
979-690-3607 (Home Office)

"A Texan with a Jersey Attitude"

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Warren:

Here's a NIOSH best practice document I happened to stumble upon.  Hope it
helps.

Rodger Ferguson, CHMM

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From: jwbillett49417 <jwbillett49417@...>
[mailto:jwbillett49417@...]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:19 PM
To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hazmat101] Initial Medical Exams

Happy New Years,

I know I've seen it, I probably have it, but I can't find it.

What document contains the recomended tests that a team member should
have when initally joining a HazMat team?

This details things such as pulmanary function tests, specific lab
tests for heavy metals ect...

Thanks

Warren

Can anyone give me some tips or pointers on using Colorimetric tubes? I am
using the RAESystems brand, similar to the Draeger type. I have the piston
stroke type manual hand pump and each tube is about 5mm in diameter, smaller
than the Draeger(7mm). I have the users manual and I'm familiar with the
operation of the pump/tubes. My question is where do I take my sample
reading? If testing a confined space do I test just outside of the space? If
testing for the presents of a known gas, do I take the reading inside the
space or container to determine if the known gas is present? If I test for a
known gas, can I over saturate the tube and get a high (false) reading? I
have researched and can't seem to find any info on where to get the most
accurate reading by placing the tube in the correct position. Any help would
be appreciated. Thanks,

Captain Bert I. Bolton, Jr.
Naval Weapons Station Fire Department
Charleston, SC
bolton_bert@...


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I have never used your (RAESystems brand) tubes. My experience is with MSA,
Draeger, and Sensidyne. But generally I use the tubes as a positive "go/no
go" device rather than a quantitative device for precise measurement.
Usually I pump from the edge of the area (where I am pretty sure there is
nothing) inward. If I get a "hit" with a tube -- say 15 ppm with more
unchanged tube indicator space left -- I will report it, and then go further
in and keep sniffing (I assume you are using respiratory protection like an
SCBA). If it "blows the tube out" you know you are in deep and its time to
either (1) get a tube calibrated for a greater ppm capacity or a "splitter"
to reduce air flow, or (2) a specific electrochemical detector that will
give you a better and more accurate reading on a continuous basis. Usually
anyone's colorimetric tubes will be off by 25-35% in the best of conditions
and circumstances.

Bear in mind several things affect tube accuracy including air temperature,
humidity, other gases either accelerating or retarding your tube's chemical
indication process, age of the tubes. That is not counting the real stupid
mistakes of only breaking off one end of the tube or using the wrong tube. A
fire department crew where I used to work had a call of ammonia in a factory
building. They rolled up, had a team go in with SCBA and Draeger tube, they
found nothing and they said "All clear." They had only broken off one end of
the tube and then the fire department captain and another officer walked
into the building and a very high concentration Anhydrous Ammonia knocked
them on their asses. They got out, pounded pretty good, but they could have
been in real trouble.

Hope this helps you.

Alton Lanier
Environmental Manager
Memphis International Airport
altonl@...

Bert - I echo and agree with Mr Lanier's synopsis of colorimetric tubes,
their use, their efficiency, and their validity of quantified results.

For the location, you take your samples based on several factors: 1)
where the people are expected to be working in within the confined space
(CS), 2) chemical specific as determined by the specific gravity/vapor
density of those chemicals that one would routinely expect to find in the
area of concern.  If the persons in the CS are fully protected with SCBA,
then most of your questions are moot if the only concern is respiratory
protection.  Corrosive gases or other nasties obviously present different
challenges beyond respiratory protection issues.

As determined by the CS environment, you may have to sample randomly in
the event of stratified atmosphere, or any air current/breeze conditions.
  Sample low at the "floor" level, high at the "ceiling" level, and at a
mid-point or perhaps at the "breathing zone" area.  Tubes should not be
relied on as the sole source/type of air monitoring.  Much more
"high-tech" instrumentation is required to yield quantified sampling
results because of the tubes inherent range of "inaccuracy," inteference,
cross-contamination, etc.  These drawbacks for tubes exist regardless of
the brand or manufacturer.  In the overall picture, tubes may be
considered as "qualifiers" whereas the new-age electronic sensors are the
"quantifiers."

OSHA regs (and equivalent state regs from SCDHEC?) are highly stringent
for confined space entry (CSE) requirements for air monitoring and other
CSE procedures.  Based on the context of your email and your question of
testing the confined space, my recommendation is to secure the resources
of certified/qualified safety professional and industrial hygienist.
Responders involved in CSE do not get second chances.  You must obey the
CSE regulations for pre-entry ventilation, pre-entry air monitoring,
work-in-progress air monitoring, etc.  Not to mention the at-the-ready
rescue / back-up teams in place ready to go in case of accident or
injury.

Good luck, and please do not take any shortcuts with CSE procedures.

On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:50:01 -0500 "Bert Bolton" <bbolton@...>
writes:
> Can anyone give me some tips or pointers on using Colorimetric tubes?
> I am
> using the RAESystems brand, similar to the Draeger type. I have the
> piston
> stroke type manual hand pump and each tube is about 5mm in diameter,
> smaller
> than the Draeger(7mm). I have the users manual and I'm familiar with
> the
> operation of the pump/tubes. My question is where do I take my
> sample
> reading? If testing a confined space do I test just outside of the
> space? If
> testing for the presents of a known gas, do I take the reading
> inside the
> space or container to determine if the known gas is present? If I
> test for a
> known gas, can I over saturate the tube and get a high (false)
> reading? I
> have researched and can't seem to find any info on where to get the
> most
> accurate reading by placing the tube in the correct position. Any
> help would
> be appreciated. Thanks,
>
> Captain Bert I. Bolton, Jr.
> Naval Weapons Station Fire Department
> Charleston, SC
> bolton_bert@...
>
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 "Bert Bolton" <bbolton@...> said to the HAZMAT101
list, in part:

>My question is where do I take my sample
>reading? If testing a confined space do I test just outside of the space?

This may be semantic confusion, but there is no value in testing the air
OUTSIDE a confined space.  You must test the air INSIDE the space.  When
using tubes, you would do that in several steps.  First, stand outside and
hold the tube inside while taking a test.  Then, or in place of that, use an
extension hose to drop the tube into the space while holding the pump
outside.  Depending on the entry configuration, this can permit you to
collect a sample from several feet inside the space.  If that sample comes
up clear, you might enter the space and use the extension hose to sample
even further inside.  I should think that a life-line and outside monitor
would be needed for that.

>If
>testing for the presents of a known gas, do I take the reading inside the
>space or container to determine if the known gas is present?


How else are you going to determine that?

>If I test for a
>known gas, can I over saturate the tube and get a high (false) reading?

You can saturate the tube, but that alone will not result in a falsely high
reading.  some tubes are calibrated for more than one range of
concentrations.  Each range is measured using a different number of pump
strokes.  Suppose the high range uses 1 stroke and the low range uses 10
strokes.  If you then take 10 pump strokes but read the tube as if for the
high range (which should have had only 1 stroke) you will produce a falsely
high reading if there is any indication on the tube.

>I
>have researched and can't seem to find any info on where to get the most
>accurate reading by placing the tube in the correct position. Any help
would
>be appreciated.
>

I see you have a US Navy address.  The Navy has a highly qualified group of
people in industrial hygiene, some of whom are no doubt stationed at your
location or nearby.  I suggest you seek additional instruction in this from
them.  I am confident they would be pleased to provide it.

Peter Zavon, CIH
Peter.Zavon@...

This is the 'official' OSHA document.

Here at the hospital, we use our in-house Occupational Health doc's to do
the surveillance. Depending on what particular extremely hazardous
environments you will be responding to, you may want to add to the
questionnaire. I put a lot of emphasis on the ability to handle temperature
stress, which means more pulmonary and cardiovascular questioning.

If you have not yet done medical surveillance on you team, you are going to
be suprised at how many you may loose due to one or more health factors.


Mike Bolt
Work Phone 336-718-0777
Work Pager 336-726-4395


-----Original Message-----
From: jwbillett49417 <jwbillett49417@...>
[mailto:jwbillett49417@...]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:19 PM
To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hazmat101] Initial Medical Exams

Happy New Years,

I know I've seen it, I probably have it, but I can't find it.

What document contains the recomended tests that a team member should
have when initally joining a HazMat team?

This details things such as pulmanary function tests, specific lab
tests for heavy metals ect...

Thanks

Warren


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm a little confused on what you are wanting to accomplish, but here is a
good piece from the OSHA web site. I have used it in training and it is
easily understandable by newbies to Hazmat.

http://www.osha-slc.gov/Publications/OSHA3077/osha3077.html
<http://www.osha-slc.gov/Publications/OSHA3077/osha3077.html>

Don't forget the medical surveillance requirements for PPE usage. They go
hand in hand.


Mike Bolt
Work Phone 336-718-0777
Work Pager 336-726-4395


-----Original Message-----
From: lnmolino@... [mailto:lnmolino@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:56 AM
To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com; Hazmat-WMD@egroups.com
Subject: [hazmat101] Any one have?


Does anyone have any type of training document or more so a guidance
document
that covers in a succinct yet short (6-8 pages) and sweet fashion the arena
of PPE. Something that could be given to a person who had say Awareness
Level
training but was perhaps in need of Operations Level training yet you did
not
have the time nor the mission to upgrade them. Obviously this document is
not
meant to replace training on PPE but rather would serve as a primer of
sorts.

If you have anything like this or know of anything like it that is web
accessible please contact me at LNMolino@... I really don't want to
reinvent the wheel and write a 6-8 page document if something is already
available to do the job.

Thanks.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
LNMolino@...
979-690-3607 (Home Office)

"A Texan with a Jersey Attitude"

I re-read your email and think I know what you are looking for now. Here is
a really good article from Emedicine that I have also used in continuing
education refresher classes.
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic894.htm
<http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic894.htm>

Mike Bolt
Work Phone 336-718-0777
Work Pager 336-726-4395




-----Original Message-----
From: Bolt, J. Mike [mailto:JMB003@...]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:25 AM
To: 'hazmat101@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [hazmat101] Any one have?


I'm a little confused on what you are wanting to accomplish, but here is a
good piece from the OSHA web site. I have used it in training and it is
easily understandable by newbies to Hazmat.

http://www.osha-slc.gov/Publications/OSHA3077/osha3077.html
<http://www.osha-slc.gov/Publications/OSHA3077/osha3077.html>
< http://www.osha-slc.gov/Publications/OSHA3077/osha3077.html
<http://www.osha-slc.gov/Publications/OSHA3077/osha3077.html> >

Don't forget the medical surveillance requirements for PPE usage. They go
hand in hand.


Mike Bolt
Work Phone 336-718-0777
Work Pager 336-726-4395


-----Original Message-----
From: lnmolino@... [mailto:lnmolino@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:56 AM
To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com; Hazmat-WMD@egroups.com
Subject: [hazmat101] Any one have?


Does anyone have any type of training document or more so a guidance
document
that covers in a succinct yet short (6-8 pages) and sweet fashion the arena
of PPE. Something that could be given to a person who had say Awareness
Level
training but was perhaps in need of Operations Level training yet you did
not
have the time nor the mission to upgrade them. Obviously this document is
not
meant to replace training on PPE but rather would serve as a primer of
sorts.

If you have anything like this or know of anything like it that is web
accessible please contact me at LNMolino@... I really don't want to
reinvent the wheel and write a 6-8 page document if something is already
available to do the job.

Thanks.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
LNMolino@...
979-690-3607 (Home Office)

"A Texan with a Jersey Attitude"



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Dear Captain Bert I. Bolton, Jr.

  In regards to your question about colorimetric tubes. The following
simple process should be followed when utilizing colorimetric tubes and
monitoring confined spaces.

1. The confined space should be monitored with a multi-gas detection
Monitor first for the following (LEL, O2, CO, H2S, SO2) These or most of
these should be monitored for before you even bother using a
colorimetric tube.

2. If you have no hits on the Multi-gas Detector (Inside the space and
outside all levels) Then determine what gases may be or potentially
could be present in that atmosphere. If you are not sure how to make
that determination consult with a CIH, a Chemist, a Chemical Engineer,
or all of them. You should be able to determine within reason if there
are any specific gases you need to rule in or out. After you make that
determination you then buy the tube or tubes you need. Even unknown gas
tubes only cover a small number of gasses.

3. Each level of the confined space should be monitored. The confined
space cannot be reclassified unless the atmosphere is safe and
continually checked to insure that. You could go through a box of tubes
continually checking in about 15 minutes or less.

4. Don't worry so much about saturation, temperature, humidity. Remember
you are trying to find the presence of an unknown gas generally
speaking, you are not trying to determine very detailed small amounts (
Here is an analogy when monitoring for Emergency Response teams. You are
realistically trying to find a fairway or a green with a golf ball not
initially the hole)


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       1. RE: Initial Medical Exams
            From: "Rodger A. Ferguson, Jr." <rodgerferguson@...>
       2. Colorimetric tubes
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       3. Colorimetric Tubes
            From: Lanier <alanie@...>


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Message: 1
    Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 09:39:38 -0500
    From: "Rodger A. Ferguson, Jr." <rodgerferguson@...>
Subject: RE: Initial Medical Exams

Warren:

Here's a NIOSH best practice document I happened to stumble upon.  Hope
it helps.

Rodger Ferguson, CHMM

-----Original Message-----
From: jwbillett49417 <jwbillett49417@...>
[mailto:jwbillett49417@...]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:19 PM
To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hazmat101] Initial Medical Exams

Happy New Years,

I know I've seen it, I probably have it, but I can't find it.

What document contains the recomended tests that a team member should
have when initally joining a HazMat team?

This details things such as pulmanary function tests, specific lab tests
for heavy metals ect...

Thanks

Warren





________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
    Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:50:01 -0500
    From: "Bert Bolton" <bbolton@...>
Subject: Colorimetric tubes

Can anyone give me some tips or pointers on using Colorimetric tubes? I
am using the RAESystems brand, similar to the Draeger type. I have the
piston stroke type manual hand pump and each tube is about 5mm in
diameter, smaller than the Draeger(7mm). I have the users manual and I'm
familiar with the operation of the pump/tubes. My question is where do I
take my sample reading? If testing a confined space do I test just
outside of the space? If testing for the presents of a known gas, do I
take the reading inside the space or container to determine if the known
gas is present? If I test for a known gas, can I over saturate the tube
and get a high (false) reading? I have researched and can't seem to find
any info on where to get the most accurate reading by placing the tube
in the correct position. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

Captain Bert I. Bolton, Jr.
Naval Weapons Station Fire Department
Charleston, SC
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Message: 3
    Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 14:12:46 +0000
    From: Lanier <alanie@...>
Subject: Colorimetric Tubes

I have never used your (RAESystems brand) tubes. My experience is with
MSA, Draeger, and Sensidyne. But generally I use the tubes as a positive
"go/no go" device rather than a quantitative device for precise
measurement. Usually I pump from the edge of the area (where I am pretty
sure there is
nothing) inward. If I get a "hit" with a tube -- say 15 ppm with more
unchanged tube indicator space left -- I will report it, and then go
further in and keep sniffing (I assume you are using respiratory
protection like an SCBA). If it "blows the tube out" you know you are in
deep and its time to either (1) get a tube calibrated for a greater ppm
capacity or a "splitter" to reduce air flow, or (2) a specific
electrochemical detector that will give you a better and more accurate
reading on a continuous basis. Usually anyone's colorimetric tubes will
be off by 25-35% in the best of conditions and circumstances.

Bear in mind several things affect tube accuracy including air
temperature, humidity, other gases either accelerating or retarding your
tube's chemical indication process, age of the tubes. That is not
counting the real stupid mistakes of only breaking off one end of the
tube or using the wrong tube. A fire department crew where I used to
work had a call of ammonia in a factory building. They rolled up, had a
team go in with SCBA and Draeger tube, they found nothing and they said
"All clear." They had only broken off one end of the tube and then the
fire department captain and another officer walked into the building and
a very high concentration Anhydrous Ammonia knocked them on their asses.
They got out, pounded pretty good, but they could have been in real
trouble.

Hope this helps you.

Alton Lanier
Environmental Manager
Memphis International Airport
altonl@...

Agree with Steve. Time, manipulation of the tubes, and ambient conditions
are also factors. IMHO, it is more feasible to get the basics out of the way
quickly with the multigas meter, then go to more exotic testing instruments.
You can sector off and hit a large confined space with the multigas meter
much more quickly than with the tubes. Tubes may be difficult to manipulate
in a dark, smokey or otherwise dirty atmosphere.



Mike Bolt
Work Phone 336-718-0777
Work Pager 336-726-4395




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From: Steve Naylor [mailto:snaylor@...]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:44 PM
To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hazmat101] RE: colorimetric tubes


Dear Captain Bert I. Bolton, Jr.

  In regards to your question about colorimetric tubes. The following
simple process should be followed when utilizing colorimetric tubes and
monitoring confined spaces.

1. The confined space should be monitored with a multi-gas detection
Monitor first for the following (LEL, O2, CO, H2S, SO2) These or most of
these should be monitored for before you even bother using a
colorimetric tube.

2. If you have no hits on the Multi-gas Detector (Inside the space and
outside all levels) Then determine what gases may be or potentially
could be present in that atmosphere. If you are not sure how to make
that determination consult with a CIH, a Chemist, a Chemical Engineer,
or all of them. You should be able to determine within reason if there
are any specific gases you need to rule in or out. After you make that
determination you then buy the tube or tubes you need. Even unknown gas
tubes only cover a small number of gasses.

3. Each level of the confined space should be monitored. The confined
space cannot be reclassified unless the atmosphere is safe and
continually checked to insure that. You could go through a box of tubes
continually checking in about 15 minutes or less.

4. Don't worry so much about saturation, temperature, humidity. Remember
you are trying to find the presence of an unknown gas generally
speaking, you are not trying to determine very detailed small amounts (
Here is an analogy when monitoring for Emergency Response teams. You are
realistically trying to find a fairway or a green with a golf ball not
initially the hole)


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       2. Colorimetric tubes
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Message: 1
    Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 09:39:38 -0500
    From: "Rodger A. Ferguson, Jr." <rodgerferguson@...>
Subject: RE: Initial Medical Exams

Warren:

Here's a NIOSH best practice document I happened to stumble upon.  Hope
it helps.

Rodger Ferguson, CHMM

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Subject: [hazmat101] Initial Medical Exams

Happy New Years,

I know I've seen it, I probably have it, but I can't find it.

What document contains the recomended tests that a team member should
have when initally joining a HazMat team?

This details things such as pulmanary function tests, specific lab tests
for heavy metals ect...

Thanks

Warren





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Message: 2
    Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:50:01 -0500
    From: "Bert Bolton" <bbolton@...>
Subject: Colorimetric tubes

Can anyone give me some tips or pointers on using Colorimetric tubes? I
am using the RAESystems brand, similar to the Draeger type. I have the
piston stroke type manual hand pump and each tube is about 5mm in
diameter, smaller than the Draeger(7mm). I have the users manual and I'm
familiar with the operation of the pump/tubes. My question is where do I
take my sample reading? If testing a confined space do I test just
outside of the space? If testing for the presents of a known gas, do I
take the reading inside the space or container to determine if the known
gas is present? If I test for a known gas, can I over saturate the tube
and get a high (false) reading? I have researched and can't seem to find
any info on where to get the most accurate reading by placing the tube
in the correct position. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

Captain Bert I. Bolton, Jr.
Naval Weapons Station Fire Department
Charleston, SC
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Message: 3
    Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 14:12:46 +0000
    From: Lanier <alanie@...>
Subject: Colorimetric Tubes

I have never used your (RAESystems brand) tubes. My experience is with
MSA, Draeger, and Sensidyne. But generally I use the tubes as a positive
"go/no go" device rather than a quantitative device for precise
measurement. Usually I pump from the edge of the area (where I am pretty
sure there is
nothing) inward. If I get a "hit" with a tube -- say 15 ppm with more
unchanged tube indicator space left -- I will report it, and then go
further in and keep sniffing (I assume you are using respiratory
protection like an SCBA). If it "blows the tube out" you know you are in
deep and its time to either (1) get a tube calibrated for a greater ppm
capacity or a "splitter" to reduce air flow, or (2) a specific
electrochemical detector that will give you a better and more accurate
reading on a continuous basis. Usually anyone's colorimetric tubes will
be off by 25-35% in the best of conditions and circumstances.

Bear in mind several things affect tube accuracy including air
temperature, humidity, other gases either accelerating or retarding your
tube's chemical indication process, age of the tubes. That is not
counting the real stupid mistakes of only breaking off one end of the
tube or using the wrong tube. A fire department crew where I used to
work had a call of ammonia in a factory building. They rolled up, had a
team go in with SCBA and Draeger tube, they found nothing and they said
"All clear." They had only broken off one end of the tube and then the
fire department captain and another officer walked into the building and
a very high concentration Anhydrous Ammonia knocked them on their asses.
They got out, pounded pretty good, but they could have been in real
trouble.

Hope this helps you.

Alton Lanier
Environmental Manager
Memphis International Airport
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I just wanted to let list member know of another resource available to
the HazMat community. HazMat-WMD Discussion group has been picking up
tremendious momentium since its inception in Dec 1998. It is currently
the largest at 813 members worldwide and growing daily. Hopefully you
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Million dollar SL home goes up in flames



Moral of the story,,,  Make sure your connections are tight.

<snip>

Gary Sluis of Grand Haven, who was also working at the home Monday morning,
explained to authorities that the hose of a propane "torpedo" heater inside the
house somehow disconnected and began filling the air around the heater with gas.
According to Sluis's explanation, the flame of the heater then ignited the air,
before moving to the tank, which exploded, causing the entire house to become
engulfed in flames.


Bryce Flint, a carpenter who was working down the hall, told authorities he saw
a "white cloud" that was waist to chest high, filling the room. Flint said they
heard a strange noise, so he and other workers began evacuating the house.

"We saw the flames coming faster than we were running," he told authorities.

Spring Lake Township Fire Chief Rick Nuvill said this morning it is not very
often he sees fires so intense.

"We just don't see fires of that magnitude that quickly," Nuvill said.

<snip>



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Be Safe,



Warren Billett

Grand Haven, Michigan, USA



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CSB, NTSB Conclude Agreement on Agency Cooperation

Source: http://www.csb.gov/news/2002/n20021202.htm

(Washington, DC - December 19, 2002) Fulfilling a requirement of
Section 112(r) of the Clean Air Act Amendments, the National
Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and the U.S. Chemical Safety Board
(CSB) today agreed to establish formal cooperative ties between the
two agencies.

The interagency agreement, known as a Memorandum of Understanding
(MOU), was signed today by NTSB Acting Chairman Carol J. Carmody and
CSB Chairman Carolyn W. Merritt in a ceremony at NTSB headquarters in
Washington. The MOU clarifies jurisdictional lines between the two
agencies and promotes exchanges of personnel, expertise, accident
information, and training and logistical resources.

Under the terms of the agreement, the NTSB will continue to serve as
the lead agency for transportation-related chemical accidents,
including accidents that occur at fixed sites but involve the loading
or unloading of transportation containers. The CSB will maintain its
primary focus on process-related chemical accidents at fixed
facilities.

According to NTSB Acting Chairman Carmody, "This agreement will
ensure the most efficient use of the taxpayers' resources by allowing
each agency to concentrate in the areas of its greatest expertise. In
addition, it will provide for shared use of resources and facilities
that will benefit both agencies."

"CSB has already benefited greatly from informal exchanges with NTSB
concerning general board operations, methods of investigation, and
the effective use of recommendations to promote safety," according to
CSB Chairman Merritt. "The new agreement, however, will establish
more formal, regular contact between the agencies that will
ultimately help promote the safety missions of both sides."

The National Transportation Safety Board is an independent federal
agency charged by Congress with investigating every civil aviation
accident in the United States and significant accidents in the other
modes of transportation -- railroad, highway, marine and pipeline --
and issuing safety recommendations aimed at preventing future
accidents.

The CSB is an independent federal agency established in 1998 with the
mission to protect workers, the public, and the environment by
investigating and preventing chemical releases. The CSB determines
the root causes of these releases and makes safety recommendations to
government agencies, companies, and other organizations.

The full text of the Memorandum of Understanding is available from
the website csb.gov.

Source: URL: http://process-safety.tamu.edu/safety_alert/09_04_02.htm

Safety Alert: H2S Released From Molecular Sieves After Contact with
Water

Three contractor employees died at a natural gas processing plant as
a result of inhalation of H2S released during the unloading of
molecular sieves from a NGL drier. Two of the victims were trying to
rescue the first worker. The incident description and the learning
points derived from the analysis of this tragedy are presented below.

Identified main areas for remedial actions are:

* Lack of detailed knowledge of the properties of molecular sieves.
* Inadequate awareness of hazards and management of risks.
* Insufficient and inadequate controls (system of work)
* Ineffective emergency response.

Description of the process

The Processing Plant concerned produces lean gas and natural gas
liquids from associated gas from oil wells. This associated gas
contains water vapour and H2S. The process involves compression of
gas, refrigeration followed by separation of condensed liquids,
dehydration of vapours and liquids and final separation into lean gas
and NGL by a cryogenic process.

The natural gas liquids are passed through a bed of molecular sieves
to remove water prior to the cryogenic process step. When the bed of
sieves becomes saturated with water, it is regenerated by passing a
stream of hot gas (250 deg. C) through the bed, followed by cooling
of the bed with cold gas.

After some 3-4 years the beds have to be replaced. Normal procedure
at this location was to dump the sieves, after regeneration, cooling
and purging with Nitrogen into a truck for subsequent disposal.

Description of the incident

The drier was prepared for dumping the sieves in a similar way that
had been done many times over the previous 20 years. Appropriate
safety precautions and equipment were provided for the entry of
personnel into the drier in order to remove the top guard and mesh.
Removal of the sieves was done by raking them from the drier onto a
chute ending above a high-sided tipper truck. The truck had been wet
with water and the dumped sieves had been wetted using a fire hose in
order to reduce the risk from any pyrophoric material and to restrict
dust in the windy conditions. After a while a mound of molecular
sieves had formed at the back of the truck. A contract labourer
decided to enter the truck to level the mound by shovelling the
sieves to the front of the truck. Entry to the body of the truck was
by a ladder behind the cab. After some 10 minutes a second contractor
also entered the body of the truck to help. Shortly afterwards he
collapsed. The first contractor went to his assistance and was joined
by a third contractor who jumped into the truck from the elevated
platform on the drier. All three became unconscious and died. A
fourth man who climbed the vehicle ladder to see what was happening
also became unconscious but was pulled from the area by rescuers.
Emergency response was delayed by unclear radio communications.

Incident analysis

Three main events were identified:

* H2S was present in the truck (semi-enclosed space) at sufficient
concentration to overcome workers within minutes and ultimately cause
death.
* Workers in the truck were unprotected (no SCBA/escape
masks/personal monitors)
* Initial emergency response was not effective.

A major contributing condition was also identified:

* There was a lack of awareness of the H2S hazard associated with the
dumping of the molecular sieves and thus inadequate management of the
risks.

The H2S was evolved (de-sorbed) from the molecular sieves in the
truck. The gas used for regeneration of the sieves prior to dumping
is a residue gas containing approximately 830 ppm of H2S. The
molecular sieves will start to adsorb H2S from the regeneration gas
during the cooling of the bed. This H2S will not be removed from the
molecular sieves during the Nitrogen purging stage. However, since
the affinity of the molecular sieves for water far exceeds the
affinity for H2S, the H2S will be released when the sieves are
contacted with water (dumping in a layer of water in the truck and
spraying with water). Further, during the levelling of the molecular
sieves any trapped H2S will be released.

Failings identified were:

* Staff and contractors did not know that H2S could be released from
the molecular sieves.
* The information provided by the sieve manufacturer did not give
explicit adequate warning of the  risk of desorption of H2S after
contact with water.
* Contractors could not recall the content of the site safety
induction that they had received some years before.
* The effectiveness of this induction was limited (no test, no
records, language/literacy problems).
* Over several years the H2S content of the gas had increased but
adequate action had not been taken to enhance awareness of staff and
contractors of the hazard. The need to carry escape masks was not
recognised, there was no requirement to carry personal H2S monitors.
* Staff did not react to the unpleasant smell which was apparent for
some time before the event.
* There were no warning signs in or around the driers indicating the
presence of H2S in hazardous concentrations.
* Dumping the molecular sieves, which was supervised by the Civil
group, was not included in the planning of the overall molecular
sieve replacement by the Mechanical group.
* Multiple jobs requiring different precautions were on a single Work
Permit. The requirements of the Company Permit to Work System were
not met.
* No job safety analysis (task risk assessment) was conducted for the
task of dumping the molecular sieves, and no tool box talk was given.
There was no Company supervision present at the job location, during
unloading of the molecular sieves.
* There was no immediate availability of rescue staff with breathing
apparatus and resuscitation equipment
*The immediate first aid response was inadequate.

Lessons to be learned from this incident

* Understanding of the Hazards and Effects Management Process (HEMP)
needs to be improved, in particular the relationship between HEMP and
the planning of activities through  identification of incident
scenarios and job safety analysis (task risk assessment).
* Incident scenarios and appropriate job safety analysis (task risk
assessment) should be performed with the involvement of first line
supervision. Method statements should be prepared which clearly
define roles, responsibilities and the controls to be applied.
* Communication through tool box talks should be carried out.
* Manufacturer's recommended practices for safe handling of molecular
sieves should be understood, communicated and applied.
* Safety induction should be tailor made for the target audience, be
multilingual if necessary and preferably visual. Effectiveness needs
to be checked and recorded and refresher training requirements
defined.
* The awareness of the hazard of H2S should be enhanced for all staff
and contractors. The effectiveness of such awareness training should
be checked and refresher training requirements defined.
* The use of adequate PPE should be enforced, including the provision
of warning notices.
* Emergency drills should address a range of scenarios and involve
all staff who may have a role to play.

On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 John Harrington <rescue1fao@...> said to the
Hazmat101 list, in part:

>I just wanted to let list member know of another resource available to
>the HazMat community. HazMat-WMD Discussion group has been picking up
>tremendious momentium since its inception in Dec 1998. It is currently
>the largest at 813 members worldwide and growing daily. Hopefully you
>will come by and share a little Hazmat101 information with us.
>
It might be helpful if you could tell us something about how the focus of
your group differs from that of Hazmat101.  That might be done by explaining
what the "WMD" stands for in the name of your group.

Thanks.

Peter Zavon, CIH
Peter.Zavon@...

Thanks for the info. I am a law enforcement hazmat tech as well as DOJ
instructor and FEMA CSEPP evaluator and instructor. Sharing intell and info is
the only way first responders will stay alive in a WMD incident.

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To: hazmat101@yahoogroups.com
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Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
I just wanted to let list member know of another resource available to
the HazMat community. HazMat-WMD Discussion group has been picking up
tremendious momentium since its inception in Dec 1998. It is currently
the largest at 813 members worldwide and growing daily. Hopefully you
will come by and share a little Hazmat101 information with us.

Archives at
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Thanks
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From Jay Crockett WMD means Weapons Of Mass Destruction. These are usually
associated with a Terrorist event. Chemical Biologocal or Radiological elements
can be involved as well as Ordinance Devices.

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On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 John Harrington <rescue1fao@...> said to the
Hazmat101 list, in part:

>I just wanted to let list member know of another resource available to
>the HazMat community. HazMat-WMD Discussion group has been picking up
>tremendious momentium since its inception in Dec 1998. It is currently
>the largest at 813 members worldwide and growing daily. Hopefully you
>will come by and share a little Hazmat101 information with us.
>
It might be helpful if you could tell us something about how the focus of
your group differs from that of Hazmat101.  That might be done by explaining
what the "WMD" stands for in the name of your group.

Thanks.

Peter Zavon, CIH
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I really hope that anyone currently active in the hazmat field knows that WMD
stands for Weapons of Mass Destruction.

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>
> >I just wanted to let list member know of another resource available to
> >the HazMat community. HazMat-WMD Discussion group has been picking up
> >tremendious momentium since its inception in Dec 1998. It is currently
> >the largest at 813 members worldwide and growing daily. Hopefully you
> >will come by and share a little Hazmat101 information with us.
> >
> It might be helpful if you could tell us something about how the focus of
> your group differs from that of Hazmat101.  That might be done by explaining
> what the "WMD" stands for in the name of your group.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Peter Zavon, CIH
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--
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Director of Operations
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Stay safe, be careful, and may God be riding with you on your next alarm!!

"For those who fight for it, LIFE has a meaning the protected will never know!"

Own or use any rail freight cars with truck bolsters manufactured by
National Castings of Mexico?

See FRA Safety alert below.

Have Good Day!
PC
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[Federal Register: December 30, 2002 (Volume 67, Number 250)]
[Notices]
[Page 79686-79687]
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[DOCID:fr30de02-140]


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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Federal Railroad Administration

Notice of Safety Advisory
AGENCY: Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), DOT.
ACTION: Notice of safety advisory.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

SUMMARY: FRA is issuing Safety Advisory 2002-03 addressing potential
catastrophic failure of 100-ton truck bolsters manufactured by National

Castings of Sahagun, Mexico, with Association of American Railroads'
(AAR) Identification B-2410 and National Pattern
52122 used in 286,000 pound gross rail load freight cars.


FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Ronald Newman, Motive Power and
Equipment Division Staff Director, Office of Safety Assurance and
Compliance RRS-14, FRA, 1120 Vermont Avenue NW., Mail Stop 25,
Washington, DC 20590 (telephone 202-493-6241) or Thomas Herrmann,
Office of Chief Counsel, FRA, 1120 Vermont Avenue, SW., Washington, DC
20590, (telephone (202) 493-6036).


SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: Six recent derailments have been reported by

the AAR which are attributed to the failure of truck bolsters
manufactured by National Castings of Mexico with AAR ID B-2410
and National Pattern 52122 used in 286,000 pound gross rail
load freight cars. All of the failed bolsters were in Barber S-2-HD
trucks on 286,000 pound gross rail load freight cars. Most of the
bolsters had evidence of welded repair during their manufacture. Full
details are not yet available on all of the failures; however,
preliminary investigation indicates that one failure was caused by an
inclusion and the others were surface initiated. The incident that is
best documented indicates that the failure occurred inboard of the
truck side frame between the side bearing cage mounting pad and the
inside gibs, initiating from the underside of the bolster. This was a
catastrophic failure resulting in a clean break between the pieces. The

other known failures appear to be similar in nature.

     Information gathered by AAR indicates that there were 29,673
suspect bolsters produced between January 1995 and May 1999. Most of
these were shipped to car builders and have since been placed into
revenue service. AAR has been actively engaged in producing a list
showing where each of the bolsters were installed. Approximately
13,000-15,000 cars may ultimately be affected including double stack,
hopper, and tank cars as well as other types of cars. AAR has issued a
maintenance advisory (MA-81) and two early warning letters (EW-5191 and

EW-5191-S1) which identify some of the series of cars which may be
equipped with the involved bolsters. Currently, AAR has identified
approximately 348 tank cars in its early warning letters which may be
affected. AAR is continuing its efforts to identify any car potentially

equipped with these bolsters.

     AAR also issued a second supplement to the initial early warning
letter (EW-5191-S2) that reports progress toward the identification of
a cost-effective x-ray technique to allow safe bolsters to remain in
service while insuring that any defective bolsters are removed from the

freight car fleet. The supplement endorses segregation of those removed

bolsters which have no obvious defects pending possible issuance of
instructions for requalification. The supplement further requests
notification to eec@... <mailto:eec@...> if a cracked or broken
National Pattern
52122 bolster is found.


Action Recommended by FRA


     [sbull] FRA recommends that all railroads and car repair shops
diligently adhere to the instructions provided in AAR's maintenance
advisory MA-81 and early warning letters EW-5191, EW-5191-S1, and EW-
5191-S2. AAR has specifically identified the following cars in the
above noted advisory and letters as being potentially equipped with the

involved bolster:


------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                            Tank car numbers from
EW-5191
           Car numbers from MA-81                   and EW-5191-S1
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  AGPX 98000-98099........................  NATX 33500-33531
  CSXT 487700-487999......................  NATX 33533-33535
  MHFX 5600-5799..........................  NATX 33538
TFM 60000-60299..........................  NATX 33544
TR 527800-528099.........................  NATX 33549-33552
  UP 28000-28639..........................  NATX 33554-33557
  WEPX 2375-2624..........................  NATX 33559-33560
  WEPX 2875-3024..........................  NATX 33562
                                            ECUX 259000-259129
                                            ECUX 281000-381082
                                            ECUX 281084-281086
                                            ECUX 281088-281093
                                            ECUX 281095-281097
                                            ECUX 281100-281108
                                            UTLX 662506-662565
                                            UTLX 662795-662800
------------------------------------------------------------------------


     [sbull] FRA also recommends that the bolsters on the above
identified cars be inspected as thoroughly as possible by visual or
other means and/or removed from service as prescribed in AAR's
maintenance advisory and early warning letters. Proper precautions must

be taken to protect the safety of the employees making the inspections,

including proper blue signal protection in accordance with existing
Federal regulations contained at 49 CFR part 218.
     [sbull] FRA further recommends that all railroads and car shops
remain alert for the issuance of future AAR early warning letters and/
or FRA Safety Advisories which may contain a listing of additional cars

potentially equipped with the involved bolster and instructions for the

handling of such cars.
     FRA may modify Safety Advisory 2002-03, issue additional safety
advisories, or take other appropriate action necessary to ensure the
highest level of safety on the Nation's railroads.

[[Page 79687]]

     Issued in Washington, DC on December 24, 2002.
George A. Gavalla,
Associate Administrator for Safety.
[FR Doc. 02-32940 Filed 12-26-02; 9:15 am]

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Hazmat 101 News – January 8, 2003

The January 8, 2003 issue of the Hazmat 101 News is now online at The
Hazmat101 Web.

Go to:  http://www.hazmat101.com
Then click Hazmat 101 News.

Topics.
1.Regulatory Agenda for Hazardous Materials Transportation Issues

2. DOT Revises Rule on Retention of Hazmat Shipping Papers

3. Harmonization of the Hazardous Material Regulations with
International Standards


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The sole reason for the existence of the Hazmat 101 list is to serve
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Hi, I have a situation that I'd like to get some feedback on.  I've
been providing dangerous goods training for all modes for a long time
and over the past couple of years I've started develping computer
based training.  For 5 years I've had a CD based IATA DG Training
program, and now I'm getting ready to beta-test a DOT/IMDG/IATA
General Awareness program but I've run into an issue.

My general awareness workbook that I use in class is about 85 pages
and it covers anthing anyone would ever need to know for general
awareness training, but as an instructor, I don't sit there and go
through all 85 pages... I judge the needs of the audience, and skip
stuff that isn't relevant.  For example, if I'm training dockworkers
and no one is ever going to load an ocean container, I leave out the
Container Packing Certificate.

But in my General Awareness online program, I don't know what to
leave out and what my liability might be if I do, yet I don't want to
bog everyone down with stuff they don't need.  Right now, I think my
general awareness program will take around 6 hours to complete; my
gut tells me that that's too long.  I typically take 4 hours in an in-
house class.

So, I'll get to the point:

* How long do you this is appropriate for an average "general
awareness, and safety" training class?

the DOT has a 20 minute video, but I have trouble believing that
that's really sufficient in the real world.  YOu'd have to show it to
them 5 or more times to pass a realistic exam on the subjects.

Anyway, any feedback I could get on the type of general awareness
training you do out there would be apprciated.  And if anyone from a
shipper or freight company might be interested in helping me "beta-
test" this, I can get you a login and your employee (or yourself)
could get General Awareness training at no cost.

Thanks,

Jim Powell
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The sole reason for the existence of the Hazmat 101 list is to serve
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help each other share knowledge.

The Hazmat 101 List and its community would not exist without its
members.

Let me say thank you to all the Hazmat 101 members.

Feel free to participate as much or as little you want.
* You can participate by sharing information, tips, suggestions,
opinions, or resources.
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asking for help.
* You can participate by replying to messages.
* You can participate by reading messages.
* You can participate by asking others to join the Hazmat 101 List.

Let me also say thank you to those members who have written articles
for Hazmat 101 News.

* Patrick Metts --  emergency responder in South Carolina
* Dr. Brian R. Shmaefsky -- professor of biology at Kingwood College
in Texas.
* Richard Wolfe --  towing manager for Stormin's Towing in Ozark,
Alabama.
* Prokopis A. Christou – Hazmat 101 publisher (I am also a member!)

Anyone interested in writing articles for Hazmat101 News, email me
off list with your ideas. Short or long articles are welcome. You
will get credit for articles published in the Hazmat101 News. The
Hazmat101 News is distributed to members of the Hazmat 101 List and
it is archived at The Hazmat101 Web.

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Sincerely,
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